Why We Lost The Vietnam War

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Do you what the committee did?


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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Your knowledge of aircraft is lacking.


Then enlighten me. Please explain how the VC10 was superior to the 707 and
the BAC One-Eleven superior to the DC-9

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Please all the threads again - twice.


Done. They still indicate you don't know what you're talking about.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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The Super VC10 was larger and any problems ironed out.

And yet only 22 were ever sold

You have this great ability not get any point. The point is that the
British made better planes but never sold well.


Airlines are commercial organisations who buy the
aircraft most fitted for the purpose. They didnt buy
the VC-10 because it cost more to run than the 707
or DC-8. The only airlines who purchased the VC-10
wer ethose for whom its single advantage of a short
take off run were of critical importance.

The BAC 1-11 was a neat little jet, but, unfortunately, it was a
_little_, short-legged jet. Just the thing for tooling between the
U.K. and Brussels, but not as economical as the DC-9 or the 737 over
the type of Stage Lengths that the rest of teh world required.

The BAC 1-11 was a massive seller.

Total One-Eleven production amounted to 235 aircraft which
was certainly respectable but doesnt compare that well
with the sales of the DC-9 (976) or Boeing 727 (1832)
let alone the 737 (4300)

Proves the point. The 1-11 was a better plane than its eqivs yet sold
well
but inferior US planes sold better.


In the marketplace inferior products rarely outsell
superior ones.

Keith

"Spiv" wrote in message
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It is irrelevant info. Greenland is NOT a part of Denmark, no more than
Gibraltar or the Falklands being a part of the UK. You obviously can't
understand this.



You are as usual incorrect. Greenlands current political situation
is that its a semi-atonomous region under the Danish Crown

Its electors vote in Danish Parliamentary elections and the
currency in use is the Danish Krone. Denmark retains control
of foreign affairs and defense. It is in fact in the same position as
Scotland and Wales , having a devolved assembly with limited
powers

from
http://www.um.dk/english/faktaark/fa24/fa24_eng.asp

Government type: Home rule in national union
with Denmark

In accordance with home rule, Greenland retains extensive
powers of self-government while remaining under the Danish Crown.
The Folketing (the Danish parliament) has transferred almost
all legislation to the Landsting (the Greenlandic parliament)
but the Folketing and the Danish administration retain control
over some areas of government. Greenland's voters elect two
representatives to the Folketing.

Language: Greenlandic and Danish
Currency: Danish krone (DKK)

Keith

"Spiv" wrote in message
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That it was not

Deliveries began in 1965 , the Boeing 727 entered service in 1964
and the Tupolev TU-124 entered service between Moscow and
Ulyanovsk in December 1962

The 727 was a larger plane.



The 727-100 could carry 131 pax, the contemporary
BAC-111-400 carried 89

However both were designed for short haul routes which is after all
the issue under discussion.

Keith

In article ,
Keith Willshaw wrote:

"Spiv" wrote in message
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We know. It was the second short haul jet, the first being the French
Caravelle.

Deliveries began in 1965 , the Boeing 727 entered service in 1964
and the Tupolev TU-124 entered service between Moscow and
Ulyanovsk in December 1962

And - though for various reasons it didn't enter service - the Avro
Canada C-102 was flying at the end of the 1940s. That probably
as the best claim to being the first regional-distance jet. Next
one - the Tu-104, maybe?

--
Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
"Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock
and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Only to your mind.


I think the few minds that are contributing to this discussion would agree
with me.

I'm not surprised. Spotters usually do.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Please all the threads again - twice.


Done. They still indicate you don't know what you're talking about.

Now read them again 4 times. You can move your lips when you are reading.

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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The Super VC10 was larger and any problems ironed out.

And yet only 22 were ever sold

You have this great ability not get any point. The point is that the
British made better planes but never sold well.

Airlines are commercial organisations who buy the
aircraft most fitted for the purpose.

The VC10 was quieter and a great favourite with passengers. The 707 was not
as nice to fly in. I know I have been on both many, many times. The VC10
also looked better too.

Proves the point. The 1-11 was a better plane than its eqivs yet sold
well
but inferior US planes sold better.

In the marketplace inferior products rarely outsell
superior ones.

You are naive. In any cases cheap capital costs are what sells to cash
strapped companies, hoping to hide the higher running costs.