Why We Lost The Vietnam War

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I know exactly what they are. Overseas territories, are just that, no
matter what the sovereign state calls them.

So you presumably believe Hawaii isnt part of the USA since
its 1500 miles away in the middle of the Pacific While Quebec
must be since you can drive there from New York State
in a couple of hours.

Are you mad? Quebec is in Canda.

Hawaii is not a part of the mass of the USA. being 1,500 miles way means it
is not a part of the USA. They call it a state, it's not. It is a
dependency, colony or take your pick what to call it.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Hawaii is not a part of the mass of the USA. being 1,500 miles way means
it
is not a part of the USA. They call it a state, it's not. It is a
dependency, colony or take your pick what to call it.


It is a state, and you are a fool.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Hawaii is not a part of the mass of the USA. being 1,500 miles way
means
it
is not a part of the USA. They call it a state, it's not. It is a
dependency, colony or take your pick what to call it.

It is a state,

So they say. It is a colony. They colonised it virtually displacing the
locals.

and you are a fool.

You can't think

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Hawaii is not a part of the mass of the USA. being 1,500 miles way

It is a state,

So they say. It is a colony.

It is a state. Colonies and other possessions do not have voting
representation in the US Congress, and do not send Electors to the
Electoral College for Presidential elections. Hawaii and Alaska
do.

They colonised it virtually displacing the
locals.

Unless you can tell me why this is different from any other state
in the US, it's not a way to distinguish a state from a colony.

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| If you don't, flee.
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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So they say. It is a colony. They colonised it virtually displacing the
locals.


Pretty much every human inhabited location is the result of some other group
being displaced or conquered, and often it was done many times in the same
location by different groups. Hawaii itself was a unified group of
kingdoms. By your reasoning, most of the world is a colony. Hawaii is a
state, the majority of residents including those of Polynesian ancestry
support remaining so.

Jarg

"Jarg" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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So they say. It is a colony. They colonised it virtually displacing
the
locals.


Pretty much every human inhabited location is the result of some other
group
being displaced or conquered, and often it was done many times in the same
location by different groups. Hawaii itself was a unified group of
kingdoms. By your reasoning, most of the world is a colony. Hawaii is a
state, the majority of residents including those of Polynesian ancestry
support remaining so.

Not what I read. A majority of Polynesianians want independence.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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"Jarg" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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So they say. It is a colony. They colonised it virtually displacing
the
locals.


Pretty much every human inhabited location is the result of some other
group
being displaced or conquered, and often it was done many times in the
same
location by different groups. Hawaii itself was a unified group of
kingdoms. By your reasoning, most of the world is a colony. Hawaii is
a
state, the majority of residents including those of Polynesian ancestry
support remaining so.

Not what I read. A majority of Polynesianians want independence.




I looked around and cannot find anything that supports your contention. On
the other hand the LA Times mentions a 1999 survey in which "43% of
Hawaiians--evenly split among natives and nonnatives--either favored or
partly favored the idea of sovereignty."

Jarg

"Spiv" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I know exactly what they are. Overseas territories, are just that, no
matter what the sovereign state calls them.

So you presumably believe Hawaii isnt part of the USA since
its 1500 miles away in the middle of the Pacific While Quebec
must be since you can drive there from New York State
in a couple of hours.

Are you mad? Quebec is in Canda.

Hawaii is not a part of the mass of the USA. being 1,500 miles way means
it
is not a part of the USA. They call it a state, it's not. It is a
dependency, colony or take your pick what to call it.


Ah you truly are delusional, thanks for confirming that
you are fundamentally disconnected from reality.

Keith