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Old February 5th 04, 09:11 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Hawaii is not a part of the mass of the USA. being 1,500 miles way

means
it
is not a part of the USA. They call it a state, it's not. It is a
dependency, colony or take your pick what to call it.


It is a state,


So they say. It is a colony. They colonised it virtually displacing the
locals.

and you are a fool.


You can't think


  #292  
Old February 5th 04, 09:14 AM
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"Brett" wrote in message
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"Dave Holford" wrote:

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I have been following this "discussion"? with amusement and would like
to make the following contributions:

I recall that at one time every page of most atlases used in British
schools tended to have a corner insert of the British Isles to provide a
sense of scale - invariably they were tiny by comparison with the
countries being depicted.

I am old enough to have seen the Brabazon in the air, and it certainly
gave me the impression of a large but ungainly aircraft which was being
handled with great care. I have also flown in Britannias, Viscounts and
Vanguards; and while I found all three comfortable it should be obvious
to anyone that the Viscount was the only successful one.


The bit I find amusing is "Spiv" has yet to indicate that he even has a
remote clue about the specification that led to the Viscount.


I never said I did. Enlighten us then.


  #294  
Old February 5th 04, 09:18 AM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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I'm not comparing the UK with others. I am looking at the UK. It is

not
small.


Its 2/3 the size of Germany
Its 1/2 the size of Iraq
Its 1/2 the size of France
Its 40% of the size of Afghanistan
Its 3% of the size of the USA
Its 2 % of the size of the Russian Federation

London is closer to Tunis than Seattle is to Washington DC

The UK falls on the sall side of the distribution curve
in geographic terms


You really are hard of thinking. I am not comparing the UK with any other
country sigh, just looking at the UK singularly. It is not small.



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Old February 5th 04, 09:29 AM
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Its 2/3 the size of Germany
Its 1/2 the size of Iraq
Its 1/2 the size of France
Its 40% of the size of Afghanistan
Its 3% of the size of the USA
Its 2 % of the size of the Russian Federation

London is closer to Tunis than Seattle is to Washington DC

The UK falls on the sall side of the distribution curve
in geographic terms


You really are hard of thinking. I am not comparing the UK with any other
country sigh, just looking at the UK singularly. It is not small.




Small , medium and large are not absolute measures.
They are words that we use making comparisons and
are completely meaningless in a singular context.

Keith


  #296  
Old February 5th 04, 10:10 AM
ANDREW ROBERT BREEN
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The Tu-104 was in service before the Comet 4 and 707
for sure.


The Tu-104 began passenger operations in September 1956.


I once flew to Moscow in one during the
mid 70's , strange aircraft with that glazed nose one
almost expected to see a bombardier sitting there.


The Tu-104 was essentially a modified Tu-16 bomber.


Same wing and engines, IIRC, very different fuselage. About the
same relationship as there was between Tu-95 and Tu-114.

Believe the glazed nose was for ground handling. It persisted
into several later Sov.U. airliner designs which were certainly
unrelated to any military type (and led to the radar sitting
atop the tailfin, rather than in the nose as in western designs).

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alcoholic drinks."


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Old February 5th 04, 10:11 AM
ANDREW ROBERT BREEN
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In article .net,
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Spiv" wrote in message
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I'm not comparing the UK with others. I am looking at the UK. It is not
small.


I am looking at the UK too. It is small.


Having looked at Russia (from flights out to Japan) the USA is small
and the UK very small..

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and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)
  #298  
Old February 5th 04, 10:34 AM
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"Spiv" wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I'm not comparing the UK with others. I am looking at the UK. It is

not
small.


I am looking at the UK too. It is small.


It holds 60 million people and can easy hold 30 million more.


You could probably fit 60 million people on the Isle of Wight (with not much
"personal" space).

It is big


Only to a small child.



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Old February 5th 04, 10:37 AM
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"Spiv" wrote:
"Brett" wrote in message
...
"Dave Holford" wrote:

...

I have been following this "discussion"? with amusement and would like
to make the following contributions:

I recall that at one time every page of most atlases used in British
schools tended to have a corner insert of the British Isles to provide

a
sense of scale - invariably they were tiny by comparison with the
countries being depicted.

I am old enough to have seen the Brabazon in the air, and it certainly
gave me the impression of a large but ungainly aircraft which was

being
handled with great care. I have also flown in Britannias, Viscounts

and
Vanguards; and while I found all three comfortable it should be

obvious
to anyone that the Viscount was the only successful one.


The bit I find amusing is "Spiv" has yet to indicate that he even has a
remote clue about the specification that led to the Viscount.


I never said I did.


Actually you have.

Enlighten us then.


I have.


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Old February 5th 04, 10:37 AM
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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You really are hard of thinking. I am not comparing the UK with any other
country sigh, just looking at the UK singularly. It is not small.


I've been to the UK. Looking at it singularly, it is small.


 




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