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Old February 5th 04, 09:01 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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It can feed the people, the UK is highly fertile. We pay farmers not to
produce. Any food imported is because it is cheap, trade agreements, or

we
just can't grow that food in our climate. When it comes to it, the land

can
feed the people. It did in WW2. All land was turned over to food
production.


And despite that and stringent rationing we still imported a large
percentage
of our food from the USA, thats why the bloody Germans were trying to sink
the merchant ships after all.

Keith



  #322  
Old February 5th 04, 09:32 PM
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"Spiv" wrote:
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I'm not comparing the UK with others. I am looking at the UK. It

is
not
small.


I am looking at the UK too. It is small.

It holds 60 million people and can easy hold 30 million more.


You could probably fit 60 million people on the Isle of Wight (with not

much
"personal" space).


Such wisdom.


Simple mathematics, the Isle of Wight packed end to end with single beds
would allow about 60 million people their own bed.



  #323  
Old February 5th 04, 09:36 PM
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"Spiv" wrote:
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"Spiv" wrote:
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"Dave Holford" wrote:

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I have been following this "discussion"? with amusement and would

like
to make the following contributions:

I recall that at one time every page of most atlases used in

British
schools tended to have a corner insert of the British Isles to

provide
a
sense of scale - invariably they were tiny by comparison with the
countries being depicted.

I am old enough to have seen the Brabazon in the air, and it

certainly
gave me the impression of a large but ungainly aircraft which was

being
handled with great care. I have also flown in Britannias,

Viscounts
and
Vanguards; and while I found all three comfortable it should be

obvious
to anyone that the Viscount was the only successful one.

The bit I find amusing is "Spiv" has yet to indicate that he even

has
a
remote clue about the specification that led to the Viscount.

I never said I did.


Actually you have.

Enlighten us then.


I have.


Where?


In this thread.





  #324  
Old February 5th 04, 09:36 PM
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The Tu-104 was in service before the Comet 4 and 707
for sure.


The Tu-104 began passenger operations in September 1956.



I once flew to Moscow in one during the
mid 70's , strange aircraft with that glazed nose one
almost expected to see a bombardier sitting there.


The Tu-104 was essentially a modified Tu-16 bomber.


The 707 was essentially a modified bomber too. Uncle Sam paid for the
development.


No, the Boeing 707 was never a bomber. "Military Derivatives. Another
aircraft type that traces its ancestry to the 707 prototype is the U.S. Air
Force KC/C-135 tanker-transport/cargo airplane...Additionally, three
707-120s plus two 707-320Bs, designated VC-137s, were delivered to the
Military Airlift Command for transporting high government officials...Recent
military applications of the 707 are the E-3 Airborne Warning and Control
System or AWACS (used by the U.S. Air Force, NATO, the Saudi government and
the French and British air forces for airborne surveillance, command and
control) and the E-6 used by the U.S. Navy for submarine communications...."
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/707family/

No, Boeing paid for the development itself. "Production go-ahead for the
Dash 80 was announced by Boeing Aug. 30, 1952, as a company-financed $16
million investment."
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/707family/


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Old February 5th 04, 09:38 PM
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Granted that the US stole the islands, like a lot of other US
territory, are you sure the locals want independence?


Last I read.


This thread would lead most sane people to believe you don't actually have
that in your skill set.



  #326  
Old February 5th 04, 10:15 PM
James Hart
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Brett wrote:
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I'm not comparing the UK with others. I am looking at the UK. It
is not small.


I am looking at the UK too. It is small.


It holds 60 million people and can easy hold 30 million more.


You could probably fit 60 million people on the Isle of Wight (with
not much "personal" space).


It's an often mentioned piece of trivia but you could fit the entire
population of the world on the Isle of Wight if they were to all stand up
shoulder to shoulder. I'd like to see it proved

--
James...
www.jameshart.co.uk


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Old February 5th 04, 10:42 PM
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"James Hart" wrote:
Brett wrote:
"Spiv" wrote:
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I'm not comparing the UK with others. I am looking at the UK. It
is not small.


I am looking at the UK too. It is small.

It holds 60 million people and can easy hold 30 million more.


You could probably fit 60 million people on the Isle of Wight (with
not much "personal" space).


It's an often mentioned piece of trivia but you could fit the entire
population of the world on the Isle of Wight if they were to all stand up
shoulder to shoulder. I'd like to see it proved


About 6.3B people on 135 square miles - so they would each get about 0.6
square feet to stand in.


  #328  
Old February 5th 04, 10:51 PM
James Hart
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Brett wrote:
"James Hart" wrote:
Brett wrote:
"Spiv" wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I'm not comparing the UK with others. I am looking at the UK.
It is not small.


I am looking at the UK too. It is small.

It holds 60 million people and can easy hold 30 million more.

You could probably fit 60 million people on the Isle of Wight (with
not much "personal" space).


It's an often mentioned piece of trivia but you could fit the entire
population of the world on the Isle of Wight if they were to all
stand up shoulder to shoulder. I'd like to see it proved


About 6.3B people on 135 square miles - so they would each get about
0.6 square feet to stand in.


Maybe it only works when the tides's out, or the tall people stand in the
sea.

--
James...
www.jameshart.co.uk


  #329  
Old February 5th 04, 11:37 PM
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Could you walk around it in a day?


I could travel around it in a day.


So it is big then


  #330  
Old February 5th 04, 11:40 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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It can feed the people, the UK is highly fertile. We pay farmers not to
produce. Any food imported is because it is cheap, trade agreements, or

we
just can't grow that food in our climate. When it comes to it, the land

can
feed the people. It did in WW2. All land was turned over to food
production.


And despite that and stringent rationing we still imported a large
percentage
of our food from the USA, thats why the bloody Germans were trying to

sink
the merchant ships after all.


The country could feed itself that was for sure. The Germans wanted to sink
arms more than food.


 




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