SHOCKING: Britain's Defence Minister under fire for lying (BBC Radio)

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Stark Raven wrote:
Sorry but it's the American people that history will look unkindly on.
We were terrible, petulant followers during Carter's Presidency,
unworthy of being led anywhere other than death valley.

You forgot that Carter got Egypt and Israel to sign a real, long lasting peace
agreement that has lasted to this day. That is quite an achievement
considering that none of the other presidents were able to get anything real
done.

A president doesn't have 100% control over the ecomomy. He can help steer it,
but he can't steer it. It is possible that Carter may not have steered it
sufficiently in the right direction (or perhaps helped steer it in wrong
direction). But it isn't 100% his own doing. (and yes, that applies to Bush
as well, although Bush definitely has streered it very much in the wrong
direction over his whole stay at the white house)

As far as the Iran hostages issue, which was Carter's real undoing at the 1980
elections, it would have happened to any USA president at the helm during that
time period.

I agreed totally with what you say. And if Presidencies were judged by
their "steering" then Carter's quarterback rating will be near-
perfect. He just didn't have any receivers worth a twit. And those who
say he was an impotent President probably needed a little viagra
themselves. You know pot calling kettle noir, etc.

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In article , nobody
wrote:

Stark Raven wrote:
Sorry but it's the American people that history will look unkindly on.
We were terrible, petulant followers during Carter's Presidency,
unworthy of being led anywhere other than death valley.

You forgot that Carter got Egypt and Israel to sign a real, long lasting
peace
agreement that has lasted to this day. That is quite an achievement
considering that none of the other presidents were able to get anything
real
done.

A president doesn't have 100% control over the ecomomy. He can help
steer it,
but he can't steer it. It is possible that Carter may not have steered
it
sufficiently in the right direction (or perhaps helped steer it in wrong
direction). But it isn't 100% his own doing. (and yes, that applies to
Bush
as well, although Bush definitely has streered it very much in the wrong
direction over his whole stay at the white house)

As far as the Iran hostages issue, which was Carter's real undoing at
the 1980
elections, it would have happened to any USA president at the helm
during that
time period.

I agreed totally with what you say. And if Presidencies were judged by
their "steering" then Carter's quarterback rating will be near-
perfect. He just didn't have any receivers worth a twit.

Part of his job was to pick competent help. Just another of his many
failures.

And those who
say he was an impotent President probably needed a little viagra
themselves. You know pot calling kettle noir, etc.

I doubt Viagra would have helped him in the way it helps you. His impotence
was a result of personality and philosophy.

Jarg