How does your club handle transient members?

On Nov 15, 10:20*am, Tony wrote:
On Nov 15, 12:16*pm, wrote:









On Nov 15, 9:40*am, Tony wrote:

I tend to agree with Hank. my feeling is that if you're in the club
you should be in the club. *yes i suppose it could get frustrating
that you pay what seems like more dues than you are getting your
money's worth but everyone has to chip in. *It is easy to fall in the
trap of thinking clubs are like FBO's. *I know I have fallen into that
line of thinking in the past, wondering what my club could do for me
instead of what I could do for my club.

The thought is if you are flying your own ship, you are flying the
club equipment less, and not adding to the wear and tear.

Most of those that are in the reduced dues category are active at the
airport, doing work for the club, but perhaps fly the clubs ships a
few times a year.

aerodyne

if the club owns the towplane they are using club equipment every time
they fly.

The towplane expenses should be covered by the cost of the tow, true,
everyone uses the towplane. What the owner members do not need to
cover are the cost associated with the clubs glider fleet. The
occasional use of the club fleet by an owner member can be a
significantly higher "useage fee/rate" for that flight.

Owner members have a significant investment tied up in their personnel
ship: They pay trailer spot fees, tie down fees, annual costs,
maintenance costs, etc.

The club member who uses club ships really do get a good deal when you
look at all the costs that add up to owning your own glider as opposed
to the collective costs of club gliders spread out amongst the
membership.

On another subject, owner members take much better care of their ships
than club members do of the club ships. I'm sure there can be many
arguments made regarding that statement, but no owner I've ever met
ever left his glider tied out with gust locks laying on the ground,
slack tie-down ropes, trailer doors left un-locked,
etc.............and who pays for the fleet when it get's damaged? We
all do.

Brad

On Nov 15, 11:39*am, Brad wrote:
On Nov 15, 10:20*am, Tony wrote:



On Nov 15, 12:16*pm, wrote:

On Nov 15, 9:40*am, Tony wrote:

I tend to agree with Hank. my feeling is that if you're in the club
you should be in the club. *yes i suppose it could get frustrating
that you pay what seems like more dues than you are getting your
money's worth but everyone has to chip in. *It is easy to fall in the
trap of thinking clubs are like FBO's. *I know I have fallen into that
line of thinking in the past, wondering what my club could do for me
instead of what I could do for my club.

The thought is if you are flying your own ship, you are flying the
club equipment less, and not adding to the wear and tear.

Most of those that are in the reduced dues category are active at the
airport, doing work for the club, but perhaps fly the clubs ships a
few times a year.

aerodyne

if the club owns the towplane they are using club equipment every time
they fly.

The towplane expenses should be covered by the cost of the tow, true,
everyone uses the towplane. What the owner members do not need to
cover are the cost associated with the clubs glider fleet. The
occasional use of the club fleet by an owner member can be a
significantly higher "useage fee/rate" for that flight.

Owner members have a significant investment tied up in their personnel
ship: They pay trailer spot fees, tie down fees, annual costs,
maintenance costs, etc.

The club member who uses club ships really do get a good deal when you
look at all the costs that add up to owning your own glider as opposed
to the collective costs of club gliders spread out amongst the
membership.

On another subject, owner members take much better care of their ships
than club members do of the club ships. I'm sure there can be many
arguments made regarding that statement, but no owner I've ever met
ever left his glider tied out with gust locks laying on the ground,
slack tie-down ropes, trailer doors left un-locked,
etc.............and who pays for the fleet when it get's damaged? We
all do.

Brad

Neglect generally plays to the club culture and the type of member to
member mentoring that's done, or not. I've visited one club where
little effort was made to wash the bugs from the gliders, gack! Makes
one wonder what else isn't done. The SSA Plan discounts coverage 30
percent to chapters with good claims records over commercial coverage,
noting the chapter members generally take better care than renters.

Raise the bar a bit,

Frank Whiteley