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On Dec 4, 1:54*pm, wrote:
Mark. wrote: On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." wrote: http://news.discovery.com/space/secr...ds-in-californ.... "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in orbit that spanned 224 days." --- Mark IV "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with lithium-ion batteries." WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? *Now they're using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?! Who predicted that? Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a thing. Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines of a spacecraft with electricity. OPERATIVE PHRASE: "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters," (other reply is ari-troll, not me) --- Mark IV |
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Mark. wrote:
On Dec 4, 1:54Â*pm, wrote: Mark. wrote: On Dec 4, 9:26Â*am, "Mark." wrote: http://news.discovery.com/space/secr...ds-in-californ... "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in orbit that spanned 224 days." --- Mark IV "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with lithium-ion batteries." WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? Â*Now they're using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?! Who predicted that? Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a thing. Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines of a spacecraft with electricity. OPERATIVE PHRASE: "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters," (other reply is ari-troll, not me) --- Mark IV It is a military project, which means the goals, conciderations, design contraints, economics, and everything else has little in common with a civilian project. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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So, Jim -- what's the mission of this thing?
-- Jay Honeck Port Aransas, TX Pathfinder N56993 On Dec 4, 6:09*pm, wrote: Mark. wrote: On Dec 4, 1:54*pm, wrote: Mark. wrote: On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." wrote: http://news.discovery.com/space/secr...ds-in-californ... "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in orbit that spanned 224 days." --- Mark IV "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with lithium-ion batteries." WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? *Now they're using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?! Who predicted that? Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a thing. Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines of a spacecraft with electricity. OPERATIVE PHRASE: "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters," (other reply is ari-troll, not me) --- Mark IV It is a military project, which means the goals, conciderations, design contraints, economics, and everything else has little in common with a civilian project. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
So, Jim -- what's the mission of this thing? The offical mission is to "demonstrate a reliable, reusable, unmanned space test platform for the U.S. Air Force". http://www.af.mil/information/factsh...asp?fsID=16639 -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On 12/4/2010 9:44 PM, Jay Honeck wrote:
So, Jim -- what's the mission of this thing? -- Jay Honeck That's a leading question - which you will not find answered definitively. The vessel has however changed orbit several times, so exercising the ready reconnaissance mode is a fair bet. Another likely objective was to find how long it was reasonable to expect a mission to last. There was a suggestion of "up to nine months" at one point. Then there's the "check out the other guys' satellites." (Yep, the military DOES watch the movies - including Bond, James Bond, and the satellite that swallows satellites.) Last but not least, porting a high power laser weapon into orbit for trials. Brian W |
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On Dec 4, 7:09*pm, wrote:
Mark. wrote: On Dec 4, 1:54*pm, wrote: Mark. wrote: On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." wrote: http://news.discovery.com/space/secr...ds-in-californ... "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in orbit that spanned 224 days." --- Mark IV "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with lithium-ion batteries." WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? *Now they're using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?! Who predicted that? Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a thing. Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines of a spacecraft with electricity. OPERATIVE PHRASE: "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle orbiters," (other reply is ari-troll, not me) --- Mark IV It is a military project, which means the goals, conciderations, design contraints, economics, and everything else has little in common with a civilian project. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far different priority. The military can not only spend more due to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business as usual. Goals and considerations are what they are. Spying. So no, if it were civilian you'd not have the equipment aboard for that. Designs constraints? Flight is flight. If a civilian group wanted a reuseable orbital with autonomous reentry the design wouldn't have "little in common". It looks just like the space shuttle, but smaller. That's why it's called the "minishuttle" by the press. But among the "technologies to be tested", we see... "lightweight electromechanical flight systems". That wouldn't be something done for half a century, or it wouldn't be technologies to be tested. So your "dim witted" comment would be best done to the mirror, or better yet...not at all. --- Mark IV |
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far different priority. The military can not only spend more due to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business as usual. Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime Contractor relationship with the miliary. Stupid git. That you are. -- A fireside chat not with Ari! http://tr.im/holj Motto: Live To Spooge It! |
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:29:26 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote: Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far different priority. The military can not only spend more due to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business as usual. Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime Contractor relationship with the miliary. Stupid git. That you are. I've since moved on to guitars, turbojets, alternative energy, and Victory gardens. I've had a long and extensive career in the lifeguard and swimming pool industry. I remember convincing the chairman of the bank and head of the Georgia Republican party to fly to Washington, D.C. and within 3 days bring me a Small Business Admin. check for 350 thousand dollars. But what makes me a creative genius when I founded a school of the arts in my name. http://gayincarolina.jottit.com/my_main_squeeze Mark IV - Sold Military Secrets to the Military |
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"Ari Silverstein" wrote
... On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote: Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far different priority. The military can not only spend more due to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business as usual. Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime Contractor relationship with the miliary. Stupid git. That you are. That's telling him, Ari! You really know the ins-and-outs of the military procurement processes! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:30:10 +0200, G Paleologopoulos wrote:
"Ari Silverstein" wrote ... On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote: Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far different priority. The military can not only spend more due to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business as usual. Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime Contractor relationship with the miliary. Stupid git. That you are. That's telling him, Ari! You really know the ins-and-outs of the military procurement processes! Got that right. Care to match wits? Eh? -- A fireside chat not with Ari! http://tr.im/holj Motto: Live To Spooge It! |
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