USA 2010 Competition Rules Committee Minutes Posted

On Dec 16, 8:19*pm, Andy wrote:
On Dec 16, 3:48*pm, Frank wrote:

On Dec 14, 9:51*am, "John Godfrey (QT)"
wrote:

http://www.ssa.org/files/member/2010...e%20Meeting%20....

John Godfrey (QT)

Anyone care to provide a good explanation of the new 'long landout vs
early finisher' scoring rule?

TA

If I recall correctly this is a recurring topic of where to set max
distance points versus min speed points. *It was polled again this
year.

You may remember a rule change a few years ago increased max distance
points to 600 from 400 so that an outlanding was less likely to mean
the end of your contest. The result was that speed points became
compressed because finishers frequently post speeds that are less than
60% of the winners speed.

The 2011 change allows competitors who fly long tasks but just miss
getting home to score more points than competitors who fly the
shortest possible task just to get home. It changes the long-held
philosophy that every speed finisher should get more points than any
landout. It will primarily apply in cases where there were
exceptionally long landout flights along with significantly under time
finishers.

I think I got that right.

9B

Yes, that's what I understand too. However, I haven't heard any
details about exactly how the scoring would be changed - i.e. how the
current scoring formulas for MDP (Max Distance Points), MSP (Max Speed
Points), "Points for Finishers" and "Points for Non-Finishers" would
be modified. Stating the philosophy is one thing, but the devil is in
the details (and the unintended consequences, whatever they turn out
to be ;-).

Just my luck that I'm giving a talk on the nuances of the U.S. contest
scoring rules, and there is a potentially game-changer looming on the
horizon ;-).

TA

TA

On Dec 16, 6:39*pm, Frank wrote:
On Dec 16, 8:19*pm, Andy wrote:





On Dec 16, 3:48*pm, Frank wrote:

On Dec 14, 9:51*am, "John Godfrey (QT)"
wrote:

http://www.ssa.org/files/member/2010...e%20Meeting%20...

John Godfrey (QT)

Anyone care to provide a good explanation of the new 'long landout vs
early finisher' scoring rule?

TA

If I recall correctly this is a recurring topic of where to set max
distance points versus min speed points. *It was polled again this
year.

You may remember a rule change a few years ago increased max distance
points to 600 from 400 so that an outlanding was less likely to mean
the end of your contest. The result was that speed points became
compressed because finishers frequently post speeds that are less than
60% of the winners speed.

The 2011 change allows competitors who fly long tasks but just miss
getting home to score more points than competitors who fly the
shortest possible task just to get home. It changes the long-held
philosophy that every speed finisher should get more points than any
landout. It will primarily apply in cases where there were
exceptionally long landout flights along with significantly under time
finishers.

I think I got that right.

9B

Yes, that's what I understand too. *However, I haven't heard any
details about exactly how the scoring would be changed - i.e. how the
current scoring formulas for MDP (Max Distance Points), MSP (Max Speed
Points), "Points for Finishers" and "Points for Non-Finishers" would
be modified. *Stating the philosophy is one thing, but the devil is in
the details (and the unintended consequences, whatever they turn out
to be ;-).

Just my luck that I'm giving a talk on the nuances of the U.S. contest
scoring rules, and there is a potentially game-changer looming on the
horizon ;-).

TA

TA

The specific formula change is described in the pilot poll.

9B