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At 15:06 02 January 2011, n7ly wrote:
.. =A0'Actually the only totally reliable sysmptom of being stalled is that the elevator will no longer raise the nose.' HUH? =A0 Many cases possible where we could have full elevator and not be stalled. =A0(I demonstrate this is 2-33 and grob 103 and ask-21. All you need is heavy pilot (forward CG) and gentle stick back to the stop. =A0Glider will mush, but not stall. =A0Elevator will not raise the nose........wing does not have angle to stall. .. whoa - depends on who's defining "stall". The FAA definition is indeed that when the aircraft does not respond in the direction of the control input that it's done. When you can no longer move the elevator up, you're done. Nose doesn't respond in direction of aft stick deflection, you're stalled. I don't remember exactly the way they word it, but the result is that touch the elevator limit, that's it. Slow entry rates result in higher stall speeds. Forward cg's give higher stall speeds. Trim settings (on some configs) affect stall speeds. Weight, etc., etc. The scene that seems the most insidious is the slow entry rate. They sneak up on you, kind of like a slow tow. Not necessarily - have the CG too far forward, and you'll run out of elevator before you stall. Admittedly that is still a stall according to FAR23/25 definitions "a stall is produced, as shown by either: (1) An uncontrollable downward pitching motion of the airplane; (2) A downward pitching motion of the airplane that results from the activation of a stall avoidance device (for example, stick pusher); or (3) The control reaching the stop." |
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