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My club is in Canada, so FAA rules don't quite apply (I know, the CARs
aren't that much different) ![]() runways, surrounded by farm land; the nearest town is 10 km away. We restrict solo students to being within gliding range and they must remain upwind of the field until they enter the landing circuit. These restrictions remain in effect until they move beyond the 2-33 and 1-26 and take the Bronze Badge course. We don't allow cross- country flights until the Bronze is completed, along with the Silver duration flight, at which point we generally send our budding xc pilots to a nice municipal airport 62 km away (with airport hopping along the way). XC in club ships requires that the pilot be licenced and checked out for xc flights on type -- rig/de-rig, trailering, etc. We don't like having our twin Grobs out on xc because they're such a pain to retrieve from a field, plus we constantly use them for intro rides and intermediate training. It will be interesting to see what happens with our "new" DG500 that's intended for advanced training and xc training. Drat! I wanna go flying!! |
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On Feb 4, 6:35*pm, jsbrake wrote:
My club is in Canada, so FAA rules don't quite apply (I know, the CARs aren't that much different) ![]() runways, surrounded by farm land; the nearest town is 10 km away. We restrict solo students to being within gliding range and they must remain upwind of the field until they enter the landing circuit. These restrictions remain in effect until they move beyond the 2-33 and 1-26 and take the Bronze Badge course. * While we're "Canadian Air Reg'ing", in Canada: “solo flight time” means, with respect to the flight time necessary to acquire a permit, licence or rating, "the flight time during which the holder is the sole occupant of an aircraft while under the direction and supervision of the holder of an instructor rating". The usual interpretation is that in order to direct and supervise, the glider must remain within visual range of the airport. A solo student who has an incident/ accident outside that range may (should?) bring pointed questions to the instructor... Once licenced, Bronze and Silver legs provide challenges to expand their flight envelope - if they get into problems away from the field, they have the skills/judgement to overcome the challenge, which a solo student may not. As for judgement - "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." |
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![]() *The usual interpretation is that in order to direct and supervise, the glider must remain within visual range of the airport. Personally, I don't interpret it to mean that at all. The student must be authorized by an instructor before the flight to undertake certain teaching points while solo. One such teaching point could be navigation and the student could be authorized to do their 50 km flight if the instructor deems the student capable. In fact, in the power private license standard, a solo cross-country flight is required. This flight takes the solo student to two different airports and covers somewhere around 250 miles. Back to the original question: At my club, students do not typically fly solo cross-country and like all other club pilots, who are not checked out for cross-country, they must remain within glide distance to return to the traffic pattern at the appropriate height and location. Any abbreviated circuit as a result of too low an arrival becomes a de-briefing and teaching point. We do not have any specific landmarks or area they are required to stay within, but on certain days (windy, poor visibility) and with some students the instructor who is supervising the flight may provide specific instructions as to where the student is expected to be. In al other cases, the students are expected to use their own judgement. A student who lands out is not sanctioned, it is again a teaching point. The decision to land was likely the best decision they made in the flight. The question becomes what decisions put them in the position where they had to make the final land out decision. That is what need correcting. Cross-country in club ships requires the pilot to be signed out in each specific type they want to fly cross-country. The checkout involves, first having completed the requirements of the bronze badge. Subsequent requirements include three consecutive spot/ precision/short landings on type. Full briefing on controlled airspace and radio procedures (followed by written test - new this year). Other requirements include: • Minimum of five flights on type. • Demonstrate ability to rig and derig glider. • Ability to organize a retrieve crew. As part of the Bronze badge training, all students are required to navigate to a neighbouring airport about 10 miles away, plan a circuit and land there. This also requires an understanding of glide calculations to determine what departure height is required to arrive at the other airport around 1500 AGL. The flight back, also focuses on navigation and glide calculations to arrive home at an appropriate altitude. |
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