Cirrus Acquired By Chinese Company

In rec.aviation.piloting hierophant wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:05:02 -0700, Robert Barker wrote:

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"Robert Barker" wrote
The Chinese bought part of GM so I don't buy them. Now Cirrus is off
my wish list.

Not too well informed...eh?

"But Buick, which sold more vehicles in China than it did in the U.S. last
year, faces an uphill battle on its home turf. Its U.S. sales have tumbled
46 percent since 2002. And the slide continues so far this year."

This is a 2007 news article.

Bob Moore


2010 article.
http://articles.economictimes.indiat...ations-tim-lee

They only have 1% for now. They don't invent or innovate on their own -
independent thought is discouraged. So they bring foreign companies in, let
them operate for a bit, nationalize them, then become your next competitor.
It's happened over and over and over.

Robert, there is no arguing with someone who has a chunk on his
shoulder for this set of foreign nationals or that set of FNs. I could
point out that there are dozens of countries that have run their
businesses in similar fashion but why get in the way of your chosen
funset?

As far as Cirrus is concerned, it is a fine aircraft which can well
become a better one and a less expensive alternative mutually. The
only way that can happen in these days and times is for the Chinese to
step in; sure beats the Koreans!

The Chinese now own a piston-engine manufacturer, two VLJ airframes, a
kit company and several other technologies. Can any American company
say the same?

If we rely on Wichita and Florida to fashion our aircraft, we will
continue to be in a spiral of increasing prices (including operating
expenses) and decreasing performance.

The entry of the Chinese in the GA market is a good thing imho; it was
bound to happen and now it has.

What really happens will depend a lot on how much is moved to China and
what the FAA does.

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?


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Jim Pennino

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In rec.aviation.piloting wrote:

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?

"Local airplane dealers lot"? Maybe I should get out more, but I've never
seen such a thing, much less an APM 30 Lion on it.

--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Boise, ID

On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 00:41:57 +0000 (UTC), Frank Stutzman wrote:

In rec.aviation.piloting wrote:

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?

"Local airplane dealers lot"? Maybe I should get out more, but I've never
seen such a thing, much less an APM 30 Lion on it.

Here I thought it was just me
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hierophant

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Frank Stutzman wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting wrote:

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?

"Local airplane dealers lot"? Maybe I should get out more, but I've never
seen such a thing, much less an APM 30 Lion on it.

Yeah, maybe you should get out more, for starters:

http://www.foothillaircraft.com/

http://www.vanbortelaircraftsales.com/

http://www.mccandlessaircraftlc.com/

http://www.griffithaviationsales.com/

http://www.midwest-aviation.com/default.htm

http://www.rivannaaircraftsales.com/default.htm

Though these days there are fewer of them than there used to be.


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Jim Pennino

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Frank Stutzman wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting wrote:

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?

"Local airplane dealers lot"? Maybe I should get out more, but I've never
seen such a thing, much less an APM 30 Lion on it.

Yeah, maybe you should get out more, for starters:

http://www.foothillaircraft.com/

http://www.vanbortelaircraftsales.com/

http://www.mccandlessaircraftlc.com/

http://www.griffithaviationsales.com/

http://www.midwest-aviation.com/default.htm

http://www.rivannaaircraftsales.com/default.htm

Though these days there are fewer of them than there used to be.

I didn't say that airplane dealer lots didn't exist. Just that that
they are rare and for most people there are no local ones.

And most of what is in your list are what I would call brokers, not
dealers. I really doubt that actually have all their "inventory"
in one place.

Also, while you didn't say it, the conversation was implying new
aircaft, not used. Excpet for the first one listed I don't see anyone
selling strictly new aircraft.

Sorry, I just seem to be extra pedantic this morning...
--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Boise, ID

Frank Stutzman wrote:
wrote:
Frank Stutzman wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting wrote:

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?

"Local airplane dealers lot"? Maybe I should get out more, but I've never
seen such a thing, much less an APM 30 Lion on it.

Yeah, maybe you should get out more, for starters:

http://www.foothillaircraft.com/

http://www.vanbortelaircraftsales.com/

http://www.mccandlessaircraftlc.com/

http://www.griffithaviationsales.com/

http://www.midwest-aviation.com/default.htm

http://www.rivannaaircraftsales.com/default.htm

Though these days there are fewer of them than there used to be.

I didn't say that airplane dealer lots didn't exist. Just that that
they are rare and for most people there are no local ones.

That depends a lot on the population densitiy of the area; there are
several in California but none that I know of in New Mexico.

And most of what is in your list are what I would call brokers, not
dealers. I really doubt that actually have all their "inventory"
in one place.

I have never seen a dealer that wasn't also a broker and usually whatever
used aircraft will fit are on their lot, or at least the "best sellers"
are.

Also, while you didn't say it, the conversation was implying new
aircaft, not used. Excpet for the first one listed I don't see anyone
selling strictly new aircraft.

Even in the glory days of the 70's there were hardly any sellers that just
sold new aircraft from one manufacturer.

BTW, the first one listed does not just sell new aircraft nor did they in
the 70's when they were a factory approved Cessna and Mooney dealer.


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Jim Pennino

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