Checklist formats

On Mar 27, 9:48*am, toad wrote:
This has been beat to death here before, but IMHO shorter is better:
CBSIFTCBE before taking off, and (for me) WWW before landing (Wind
Water Wheel). *I don't need a piece of paper to remember those (yet!)

The rest is just good aviating.

Cheers (from snowy St Louis)

Kirk 66

I have never been able to memorize what CBSIFTCBE is supposed to mean
and a written checklist seems a perfect way for the pre-takeoff check
to be made.

(W)USTALL might have a couple of redundant checks, but it's short and
easy to remember.

Todd
3S

Funny, cuz I have no clue what (W)USTALL stands for.

Kirk
66

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:36:59 -0700, kirk.stant wrote:

Funny, cuz I have no clue what (W)USTALL stands for.

When I was flying an ASW-20, WUF (Water, Undercarriage, Flaps) was
considered enough of a check list by senior club members who were also
instructors. Now I fly an early Standard Libelle the checklist should be
pared down to U since it has no flaps and doesn't carry water. In
practise no checklist is needed: I simply follow our club practice of
making a 5 minute call and saying what direction I'm appearing from. Then
I make another call on downwind announcing my choice of circuit direction
and runway and confirming that my u/c is down and locked.


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On Mar 27, 3:36*pm, "kirk.stant" wrote:
On Mar 27, 9:48*am, toad wrote:



This has been beat to death here before, but IMHO shorter is better:
CBSIFTCBE before taking off, and (for me) WWW before landing (Wind
Water Wheel). *I don't need a piece of paper to remember those (yet!)

The rest is just good aviating.

Cheers (from snowy St Louis)

Kirk 66

I have never been able to memorize what CBSIFTCBE is supposed to mean
and a written checklist seems a perfect way for the pre-takeoff check
to be made.

(W)USTALL might have a couple of redundant checks, but it's short and
easy to remember.

Todd
3S

Funny, cuz I have no clue what (W)USTALL stands for.

Kirk
66

( Water )
Undercarriage
Speed
trim
airbrakes ( test them in case of a failure )
look
land

And I agree that it's all airmanship. I think these are taught to
primary students more in order to teach the airmanship than they are
needed as a "checklist" such as done in a complex aircraft.

On 3/27/2011 12:36 PM, kirk.stant wrote:
On Mar 27, 9:48 am, wrote:
This has been beat to death here before, but IMHO shorter is better:
CBSIFTCBE before taking off, and (for me) WWW before landing (Wind
Water Wheel). I don't need a piece of paper to remember those (yet!)

The rest is just good aviating.

Cheers (from snowy St Louis)

Kirk 66

I have never been able to memorize what CBSIFTCBE is supposed to mean
and a written checklist seems a perfect way for the pre-takeoff check
to be made.

(W)USTALL might have a couple of redundant checks, but it's short and
easy to remember.

Todd
3S

Funny, cuz I have no clue what (W)USTALL stands for.

Kirk
66

Wind
Undercarriage
Speed
Trim
Airbrakes
Lookout
Land

Speed, trim, and lookout are things you should have been doing all your
flight. Not clear why you need to be reminded of them when you are
landing.

If you are in the pattern and forget about the "airbrakes" or "land"
part, you should have stayed in bed that day!

That leaves wind and the wheel, and water also could be added. Maybe
also an announcement of your intentions on the radio.

At 20:06 27 March 2011, Greg Arnold wrote:


Wind
Undercarriage
Speed
Trim
Airbrakes
Lookout
Land

If I were using this list I would change it as follows

W ater
U ndercarriage
F laps
S peed
T rim
A irbrakes
R adio Intentions
E nter Pattern

Carry it out near and above your selected IP and have it over with before
pattern altitude.