Question about the F-22 and cost.

You're getting more and more respectable all the time. Still just as
full of **** as ever though.

I was always respectable Ferrin, you have been a fool.

Uh huh. I guess some things still zip right over your head though
huh?




I have already written that I will not oppose the production run any longer,
(Georgia pork) so I don't see why you can't just discuss the numbers issue
in a sober manner.

As far as the numbers go the more F-22s the merrier. My gripe is a
cap was given, the USAF seemed okay with that, and now the **** is
getting stirred about cost again. A cap is a cap. As far as
sobriety goes my rant isn't about how many are being bought but how
the purse strings are being handled. If the Air Force says they can
make do with the cap and aren't asking for money above and beyond it
then I don't see what the problem is. IMO part of the reason the
airforce is okay with the cap is at least it gave them a number to
shoot for and the possiblility of stable funding. Not unlimited
funding. STABLE funding. It's no wonder things are as screwed up as
they are. I suppose it's the nature of the beast but there's got to
be accountability. I completely agree on the issue of PORK (wow
agreeing with Tarver, what's the world coming to). Not all expensive
programs are pork though. Certainly not the F-22. Consider who wants
it and who doesn't. The airforce wants it. The couldn't give a ****
LESS where the damn thing is built or who gets the contracts, they
just want the aircraft. Now look at the C-130J and Osprey. There's
some pork with a capitol "P". Anytime the politicians say "you WILL
buy these aircraft" and the services saying "we don't want them" you
can hear the bacon frying. I like the B-1. The airforce doesn't want
to spend the $$$ to pull those 30 back out of retirement but the
politicians are trying to push them to. Pork. Just because you hate
a weapon system or think it's expensive or even if it IS expensive,
what determines whether or not it's pork is WHO wants it built.






The money is already spent, that is what jumping
straight to production was all about, instead of the 19 airframe FSD that is
real. Perhaps the titanium tail spar is a fix and perhaps not, there is no
way to know until the airplane stacks up some hours. (AV19)

Now go back to aviation and stop your personality attack.

Sorry, did I hurt your feelings "stinky"?






The tab to me is
so wide that there is no possibility of discrediting me, so calm down.

How about in english for the rest of us?

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
...

You're getting more and more respectable all the time. Still just as
full of **** as ever though.

I was always respectable Ferrin, you have been a fool.

Uh huh. I guess some things still zip right over your head though
huh?

Scott, consider for a moment that you are not respectable, therefore you
have no connection whatsoever to my credibility.

I have already written that I will not oppose the production run any
longer,
(Georgia pork) so I don't see why you can't just discuss the numbers
issue
in a sober manner.

As far as the numbers go the more F-22s the merrier.

That is not the question. The issue is how many F-22s are necessary to have
a viable force.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:32:42 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
.. .

You're getting more and more respectable all the time. Still just as
full of **** as ever though.

I was always respectable Ferrin, you have been a fool.

Uh huh. I guess some things still zip right over your head though
huh?

Scott, consider for a moment that you are not respectable, therefore you
have no connection whatsoever to my credibility

And I'm all weepy over here that you feel that way. And you'd need to
actually *have* credibility in order for anyone to be connected to it.






I have already written that I will not oppose the production run any
longer,
(Georgia pork) so I don't see why you can't just discuss the numbers
issue
in a sober manner.

As far as the numbers go the more F-22s the merrier.

That is not the question. The issue is how many F-22s are necessary to have
a viable force.

Depends what you want to do with it.

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:32:42 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:

That is not the question. The issue is how many F-22s are necessary to
have
a viable force.

Depends what you want to do with it.

That has become the major question WRT the F-22.