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![]() "Krztalizer" wrote in message ... If the German scientists and co were so much more advanced then the Allies with jets and new inventions from 1930s-1945, who knows what else was created that after the war the Allies dare not want the public to see.. A bemusing little troll. It's equivalent to an American saying that the Philidephia Experiment really happened. Interesting how everyone including some mature posters is hooked in though. But their leads were momentary, if at all. Allied jet fighters were introduced within months of German aircraft - and the main differences were primarily in the life expectancy of the crew and MTBF for the airframes, so perhaps the idea of 'first' didn't necessarily equate to 'better' or 'best'. To be fair compromises in some aspects of quality were necessary to redress the quantitative advantages of the allies. the life of a German airframe was not much in anycase. Note the work they did do on ejection seats. We could have rushed the P-80 into service a wee bit faster if we hung workers suspected of slacking off or whipped them to make them work harder, but that isn't our way. Actually forced or conscripted labour in production was fairly well treated and fed, it had to be. It was that labour used in the exacavation of underground works that appears to have suffered severely. German centimetric airborne radar development was a full generation behind Allied sets, allowing the cream of the NJG forces and hundreds of night bombers to be destroyed by Allied nightfighters. The list of technological failures is every bit as dramatic as their successes. Quite true. The time periode between the discovery of the rotterdam Garate (a H2S Magnetron lost on a Sterling in Feb 1943) and the appearence of A few FuG 244 equiped Ju 88G7s in Jan 1945 is about 23 months. The original German magnetron and microwave development team had been conscripted into the army and had to be recalled so that expertise was available. Even before that was done the presence of the magnetron on ground mapping radar was taken as proof that microwave radar was not good. Hell, the brown shirt "geniuses" didn't even realize the Allies were reading their coded messages just as fast as they were transmitted. Actually craking the code required a mistake to be made and a long message and when keys changed it could be a while before the were cracked again. When the u boats began receiving individual messages in late 1944 with their own unique keys the codes were never cracked. Even today WW1 secret dealing with US army records are still highly guarded.. so i can suspect we only saw a tip of iceberg from ww2. True, but it was a mid-1940s iceberg, not some sort of futuristic engineering eutopia where normal linear development is suspended, I guess because the Fuhrer willed it to be so? The critical limiting factors to all of the wunderwaffe, SS discs and secret bases, are time and resources - they were quickly running out of both and no matter how inventive, these guys were being directed by criminally inefficient and certifiably crazy egomaniacs that had no true interest in sciences. Just what sort of usable engineering gets created within the walls of Bedlam? There truely were some unnecesary stuff up that could have been avoided if the leadership understood how technology progesses. The fact that all German radars shared a single frequency and the secrecy sourounding the effectiveness soruning 'duppel' or the German version of Window which had so much secrecy placed upon it proper countermeasures could not be developed. |
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"The Enlightenment" wrote in message ...
There truely were some unnecesary stuff up that could have been avoided if the leadership understood how technology progesses. The fact that all German radars shared a single frequency... All German radars did not share a single frequency - far from it, actually*. Their radars were far more frequency agile than Allied radars, although not like the "frequency agile" that we know today. Most could be retuned fairly easily, being rather simple, elegant designs. Most allied radars could not without a massive headache (as in hours of unstable operation, getting all the bugs out). Allied microwave radars could not change frequency at all, unless the magnetron was actually replaced. The "first" (I think) tuneable microwave radar the Allies had was the X band SCR-584. On a side note, both the Allies and the Axis both tried to keep their radars confined to various bands. There is a good reason for this - interference. The airwaves were horribly overcrowded, even up in the VHF area where air search radars live. Spreading your radars all over the place on the band is actually troublesome. *Freyas were found everywhere between 90 and 190 MHz. Wurzburgs were found from 470 to 590 MHz. Source: TME 11-219 "Directory of German Radar Equipment". and the secrecy sourounding the effectiveness soruning 'duppel' or the German version of Window which had so much secrecy placed upon it proper countermeasures could not be developed. For 1940s technology, Window was almost impossible to defeat. The Germans, however, did a pretty good job with their Window ECCM (anti-jam). Allied radars had AJ features as well, but not quite as advanced (it was rarely used). William Donzelli |
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