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Old April 29th 11, 12:58 AM
Walt Connelly Walt Connelly is offline
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Okay, you can have the blue Viagra ship, hope you can keep it up. I want the HOOTERS sponsored glider. My pit crew will be a bevy of scantily clad, busty young ladies with tight orange shorts and tighter tops. Of course my glider will have TWIN power plants. Glad to hear these things will only cost a QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS EACH.

Seriously though, we do need to do something to grow our sport. Exposure to the public is everything. When a major championship gliding event fails to attract a news camera from a local tv station, something is wrong. The recent Senior Championships didn't get the coverage that the local Bike Week event did. There were stories every day on the local media about the bike event but nada on soaring. Sad.

Walt
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Old April 29th 11, 01:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:58:08 +0000, Walt Connelly wrote:

Seriously though, we do need to do something to grow our sport. Exposure
to the public is everything. When a major championship gliding event
fails to attract a news camera from a local tv station, something is
wrong. The recent Senior Championships didn't get the coverage that the
local Bike Week event did. There were stories every day on the local
media about the bike event but nada on soaring. Sad.

It would be interesting to know what effort and finance the bike event
put into attracting sponsors, getting its footage onto TV and the type of
exposure (sport or local news slots). Comparing that with the same
figures for the Seniors is likely to provide all the reasons for that
lack of coverage.

I think we already have a good candidate for a TV sport slot. Its called
the Glider Grand Prix and comes complete with all the America's Cup
display gizmos that are apparently needed to get a non-mainstream sport
onto TV. Most importantly, it showcases racing sailplanes doing what they
are designed to do. Isn't that the sort of exposure we really need? IMO
its the type of exposure that's most likely to provide a steady flow of
new bods into two-seat cockpits.


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Old April 29th 11, 07:42 PM
Walt Connelly Walt Connelly is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Gregorie[_5_] View Post
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:58:08 +0000, Walt Connelly wrote:

Seriously though, we do need to do something to grow our sport. Exposure
to the public is everything. When a major championship gliding event
fails to attract a news camera from a local tv station, something is
wrong. The recent Senior Championships didn't get the coverage that the
local Bike Week event did. There were stories every day on the local
media about the bike event but nada on soaring. Sad.

It would be interesting to know what effort and finance the bike event
put into attracting sponsors, getting its footage onto TV and the type of
exposure (sport or local news slots). Comparing that with the same
figures for the Seniors is likely to provide all the reasons for that
lack of coverage.

I think we already have a good candidate for a TV sport slot. Its called
the Glider Grand Prix and comes complete with all the America's Cup
display gizmos that are apparently needed to get a non-mainstream sport
onto TV. Most importantly, it showcases racing sailplanes doing what they
are designed to do. Isn't that the sort of exposure we really need? IMO
its the type of exposure that's most likely to provide a steady flow of
new bods into two-seat cockpits.


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The reality is that Bike Week brings in many millions of dollars to the local economy. It draws about half a million bikers and wannabees to the local area for an entire week. We can't compete with those numbers but It's hard to understand how there was NO local TV coverage of a national event like this. JMHO

Walt
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Old April 29th 11, 09:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
kirk.stant
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On Apr 29, 1:42*pm, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.
wrote:
'Martin Gregorie[_5_ Wrote:









;770579']On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:58:08 +0000, Walt Connelly wrote:
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Seriously though, we do need to do something to grow our sport.
Exposure
to the public is everything. *When a major championship gliding event
fails to attract a news camera from a local tv station, something is
wrong. *The recent Senior Championships didn't get the coverage that
the
local Bike Week event did. *There were stories every day on the local
media about the bike event but nada on soaring. *Sad.
-
It would be interesting to know what effort and finance the bike event
put into attracting sponsors, getting its footage onto TV and the type
of
exposure (sport or local news slots). Comparing that with the same
figures for the Seniors is likely to provide all the reasons for that
lack of coverage.


I think we already have a good candidate for a TV sport slot. Its called


the Glider Grand Prix and comes complete with all the America's Cup
display gizmos that are apparently needed to get a non-mainstream sport


onto TV. Most importantly, it showcases racing sailplanes doing what
they
are designed to do. Isn't that the sort of exposure we really need? IMO


its the type of exposure that's most likely to provide a steady flow of


new bods into two-seat cockpits.


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martin@ * | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org * * * |


The reality is that Bike Week brings in many millions of dollars to the
local economy. *It draws about half a million bikers and wannabees to
the local area for an entire week. *We can't compete with those numbers
but It's hard to understand how there was NO local TV coverage of a
national event like this. *JMHO

Walt

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You guys are smoking dope if you think gliding is ever going to be
like bike racing or NASCAR - or any popular sport. Anyone can walk
into a motorcycle or car dealership and buy a bike or car and drive
it. He may not race it, but he is still involved.

You can't (and never will be able to) do that with gliding.

THAT is why gliding will always be a niche sport.

What gliding has to do is grow up, realize it's a (relatively) rich
man's sport, and work on attracting and keeping people who are looking
for a different way to spend their disposable income.

Yeah, I know that's heresy to the 1-26 and 2-33 crowd, and I wish you
could prove me wrong. But I think the numbers support me.

Which is why our club is looking at selling our 2-33 and one of our
1-26s, getting an ASK-21 and another glass single seater, making a
nicer clubhouse that is actually hospitable instead of being a
workshop, and building a simulator using the cockpit of a wrecked 103
and Condor.

And with the price of gas going up - trying to snag power pilots, who
already have the flying bug but can't afford or justify renting (or
owning, for that matter) a Cezzna for those $200 hamburgers anymore.

And as the Country Clubs fill up, snagging empty-nesters who don't
want to be stuck in a line waiting for a t-time.

Kids? Yeah, right, there will always be a few, and they should be
encouraged (good equipment helps here, too), but don't expect the
average kit to wander onto the gliderport...No chicks, way too many
old grumpy guys, too many rules, BORING!!!

Me, I'm going racing...and the only person I care about will be
watching me on my SPOT - and handing me a cold beer when I land.

Kirk
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Old April 30th 11, 05:14 PM
Walt Connelly Walt Connelly is offline
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The reality is that Bike Week brings in many millions of dollars to the
local economy. *It draws about half a million bikers and wannabees to
the local area for an entire week. *We can't compete with those numbers
but It's hard to understand how there was NO local TV coverage of a
national event like this. *JMHO

Walt

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Walt Connelly[/i][/color]

You guys are smoking dope if you think gliding is ever going to be
like bike racing or NASCAR - or any popular sport. Anyone can walk
into a motorcycle or car dealership and buy a bike or car and drive
it. He may not race it, but he is still involved.

You can't (and never will be able to) do that with gliding.

THAT is why gliding will always be a niche sport.

What gliding has to do is grow up, realize it's a (relatively) rich
man's sport, and work on attracting and keeping people who are looking
for a different way to spend their disposable income.

Yeah, I know that's heresy to the 1-26 and 2-33 crowd, and I wish you
could prove me wrong. But I think the numbers support me.

Which is why our club is looking at selling our 2-33 and one of our
1-26s, getting an ASK-21 and another glass single seater, making a
nicer clubhouse that is actually hospitable instead of being a
workshop, and building a simulator using the cockpit of a wrecked 103
and Condor.

And with the price of gas going up - trying to snag power pilots, who
already have the flying bug but can't afford or justify renting (or
owning, for that matter) a Cezzna for those $200 hamburgers anymore.

And as the Country Clubs fill up, snagging empty-nesters who don't
want to be stuck in a line waiting for a t-time.

Kids? Yeah, right, there will always be a few, and they should be
encouraged (good equipment helps here, too), but don't expect the
average kit to wander onto the gliderport...No chicks, way too many
old grumpy guys, too many rules, BORING!!!

Me, I'm going racing...and the only person I care about will be
watching me on my SPOT - and handing me a cold beer when I land.

Kirk
66[/quote]

I never thought that gliding could be as big as motorcycling or auto racing but my point is that we need to take the initiative to promote it to those who might become part of the community. I lived in Orlando for 25 years before I heard of the local gliderport and that was by accident. The power pilot concerned about the cost of avgas, the country clubber who might have been a pilot at one time and still enjoys the idea of flying need to be recruited. If there is not sufficient participation in the sport locally the local operation might not stay afloat. This is a great place to fly, people need to be made aware of this.

Walt
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Old April 30th 11, 01:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:42:19 +0000, Walt Connelly wrote:

The reality is that Bike Week brings in many millions of dollars to the
local economy. It draws about half a million bikers and wannabees to
the local area for an entire week. We can't compete with those numbers
but It's hard to understand how there was NO local TV coverage of a
national event like this. JMHO

OK, that explains a lot. I've never been to Florida and so had no idea
what Bike Week might be - in fact I thought it must have been some local
cycling promotion.

However, there remains one relevant question: did anybody tell the local
media that the Seniors was on?

Our club's experience is that the local TV and/or paper generally ignore
us, but will usually cover stories we tell them about provided they're
something that interests folks outside the aviation community.


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Old April 30th 11, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Schumann
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On 4/29/2011 8:32 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:42:19 +0000, Walt Connelly wrote:

The reality is that Bike Week brings in many millions of dollars to the
local economy. It draws about half a million bikers and wannabees to
the local area for an entire week. We can't compete with those numbers
but It's hard to understand how there was NO local TV coverage of a
national event like this. JMHO

OK, that explains a lot. I've never been to Florida and so had no idea
what Bike Week might be - in fact I thought it must have been some local
cycling promotion.

However, there remains one relevant question: did anybody tell the local
media that the Seniors was on?

Our club's experience is that the local TV and/or paper generally ignore
us, but will usually cover stories we tell them about provided they're
something that interests folks outside the aviation community.



Not just tell the media about the event, but did anyone bother to
volunteer to take a reporter with a TV camera on one of the contest
flights? Most local stations are constantly looking for interesting
feel good stories that they can use on slow news days.

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Old April 30th 11, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:57:01 -0400, Mike Schumann wrote:

Not just tell the media about the event, but did anyone bother to
volunteer to take a reporter with a TV camera on one of the contest
flights? Most local stations are constantly looking for interesting
feel good stories that they can use on slow news days.

One of the more unusual things we've done was to get some of our two-
seater owners to fly their gliders round a 'five cathedrals' task, i.e.
each cathedral in our area was a TP, with the associated bishops or
cannons on board. It was flown a group tour rather than a race on a nice
day. The churchmen enjoyed their flights and the local media loved the
idea.


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Old May 2nd 11, 03:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Sailplanes CAN draw big crowds and lots of media attention. At my
last airshow, I flew before a crowd of 180,000. Lots of media
coverage. I'm scheduled to fly 5 days at Oshkosh this year. By the
end of the 2011 airshow season, literally millions of people will have
been exposed to sailplane flying. I've tried to get SSA to work with
me to promote soaring at the airshows I attend. I've never been able
to get any cooperation. At last year's SSA convention, it was
announced that SSA's goal was something like 120 new members
nationwide this year. On a good airshow weekend, we could approach
that number of new SSA members daily. It would take some real
marketing effort on the part of all participants to sell soaring.
We'd need a good hook and some professional salesmen. The announcer
would need the information on the local soaring clubs, then the local
club would need to offer a exciting experience in a modern sailplane
(no Schweitzers, please). Hook them for a one year SSA membership,
then get some modern aircraft in the magazine (again, no Schweitzers).

This year, I also filmed for our local TV news (three mornings of
shooting, with their helicopter), History Channel, Discovery Canada,
Discovery Australia and the new Discovery 3-D - all at their request.
The jet sailplanes have appeared in hundreds of magazines worldwide.

Yes, I realize that flying low-level aerobatics in a jet sailplane
isn't 'real' soaring any more than driving around a circle at 150 MPH
isn't 'real' driving, but there is a reason every car manufacturer
sponsors racing. It sells the excitement of their product, even
though most people will actually buy the mini-van.

Jet sailplane racing? Crazy! Ridiculous! Stupid! But it could be
just what our sport needs to capture public attention, recruit new
members and remain viable.

BC
 




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