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On Sep 8, 12:09*pm, ContestID67 wrote:
I am in the midst of a project to install a gear/airbrake warning system on my glider based on the built-in capability of my Cambridge 302. *This system is better than the simple "airbrakes open, gear up" warning system (http://www.wingsandwheels.com/pdf/gear%20warning.pdf) as it also alerts the pilot to "airbrakes open on tow". My "sensors" will be strategically placed reed switches and associated magnets (and tefzel wire of course). * My primary question revolves around how to do a pre-flight test of the system. From the manual... "Warnings depend on presence or absence of airspeed as well as the switch contacts. Here is the logic: Unlocking the airbrakes connects pin 7 to ground. When airspeed rises above 25 knots, the alarm sounds. The alarm is cancelled when the airbrakes are locked. During flight with the landing gear retracted, unlocking the airbrakes connects pin 7 to ground and sounds the alarm. Lowering the landing gear opens the connection between pin 8 and ground and cancels the alarm." Reading from the above it would seem that the alarm system is totally inactive until the GPS indicates I am moving 25+ knots. *If so, how can I test this system on the ground? *Anyone else install this system and have any experience? * This weekend I will experiment to see if the 302 programming is smart enough to allow testing while I am standing still. Thanks, John DeRosa Launch, release from tow, open spoilers with gear up, listen for warning horn. |
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On 9/9/2011 8:23 AM, glidergeek wrote:
Reading from the above it would seem that the alarm system is totally inactive until the GPS indicates I am moving 25+ knots. I believe the 302 uses airspeed, not GPS ground speed, to do the measurement. If so, how can I test this system on the ground? Anyone else install this system and have any experience? This weekend I will experiment to see if the 302 programming is smart enough to allow testing while I am standing still. Thanks, John DeRosa Launch, release from tow, open spoilers with gear up, listen for warning horn. That only tests the gear warning, which can also be done on the ground with the fuselage in the trailer dolly and the gear up. To test the "spoilers unlocked" warning, the airspeed must increase past 25 knots while the spoilers are unlocked, and once you have released from tow, the airspeed won't do that. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl |
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On Sep 9, 2:50*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 9/9/2011 8:23 AM, glidergeek wrote: Reading from the above it would seem that the alarm system is totally inactive until the GPS indicates I am moving 25+ knots. I believe the 302 uses airspeed, not GPS ground speed, to do the measurement. *If so, how can I test this system on the ground? *Anyone else install this system and have any experience? * This weekend I will experiment to see if the 302 programming is smart enough to allow testing while I am standing still. Thanks, John DeRosa Launch, release from tow, open spoilers with gear up, listen for warning horn. That only tests the gear warning, which can also be done on the ground with the fuselage in the trailer dolly and the gear up. To test the "spoilers unlocked" warning, the airspeed must increase past 25 knots while the spoilers are unlocked, and once you have released from tow, the airspeed won't do that. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarmhttp://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl Well, you could try the following at altitude. Theoretically it should work. Lower gear, pull up hard enough to stall with no airspeed showing, unlock brakes/spoilers at the stall break. Alarm should sound when gaining speed during the stall recovery. Although the OP wants to be able to test on the ground. That's the way I would test as well. I have a method for testing my pnuematic lines (static, pitot, te). Go to any pharmacy and get a syringe (without needle) in the smallest diameter they have. My local pharmacy gives them to me for free. The real small narrow ones allow for moderate plunger movement without fear of damaging your instruments. That's not to say you shouldn't be extremely careful. The point is the really small diameter syringes do not move much volume. I keep one in my field box with a piece of surgical tubing attached for testing. It would be perfect for connecting to the pitot and applying a small amount of pressure to test the 302 alarm. Not to mention the ease in which it allows one to test for leaks throughout the rest of the ship. |
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