Group Activity

I have been off this group for over a year. Previously this was a very
active group; however, there has been very few messages since I returned.
It may be due to my service provider, or maybe with the passing of a few key
members the overall activity has significantly diminished.

The main reason for this message is to get some feedback on whether this is
still a viable Homebuilt Aircraft forum.

Respectfully,

Wayne
HP-16 "6F"
http://tinyurl.com/N990-6F

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
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I have been off this group for over a year. Previously this was a very active
group; however, there has been very few messages since I returned. It may be
due to my service provider, or maybe with the passing of a few key members the
overall activity has significantly diminished.

It's not your service provider, and it's not just this group. For a variety of
reasons, the Usenet is in a serious general decline. There are a few
exceptions, like rec.aviation.soaring.

On 9/21/2011 12:11 PM, vaughn wrote:
"Wayne wrote in message
...
I have been off this group for over a year. Previously this was a very active
group; however, there has been very few messages since I returned. It may be
due to my service provider, or maybe with the passing of a few key members the
overall activity has significantly diminished.

It's not your service provider, and it's not just this group. For a variety of
reasons, the Usenet is in a serious general decline. There are a few
exceptions, like rec.aviation.soaring.



True enough, but this was, and could still be a viable forum.

Thank you for the responses.

I have also noticed a very significant decline in the activity on my Yahoo
hp-gliders news group. (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hp-gliders) There has
also been a massive decline in number of visits to the Schreder Sailplane
Designs website. (http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder)

Maybe this is all a sign of the times and we are becoming a society where
people no longer develop the skills and self confidence to build or repair
thing. This is definitely true in the world of Amateur Radio where
homebuilt system were common and now seldom exist.

Again, thank you for the replies.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F" W7ADK
http://www.soaridaho.com/


"Richard" wrote in message
...

On 9/21/2011 12:11 PM, vaughn wrote:
"Wayne wrote in message
...
I have been off this group for over a year. Previously this was a very
active
group; however, there has been very few messages since I returned. It may
be
due to my service provider, or maybe with the passing of a few key
members the
overall activity has significantly diminished.

It's not your service provider, and it's not just this group. For a
variety of
reasons, the Usenet is in a serious general decline. There are a few
exceptions, like rec.aviation.soaring.



True enough, but this was, and could still be a viable forum.

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
m...

Thank you for the responses.

I have also noticed a very significant decline in the activity on my Yahoo
hp-gliders news group. (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hp-gliders) There has
also been a massive decline in number of visits to the Schreder Sailplane
Designs website. (http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder)

Maybe this is all a sign of the times and we are becoming a society where
people no longer develop the skills and self confidence to build or repair
thing. This is definitely true in the world of Amateur Radio where
homebuilt system were common and now seldom exist.

Again, thank you for the replies.

I would too like to see this group make a come-back. There are many ideas
to be discussed.

In order to begin, those who would come around would need to agree to shun
undesirables who would rather see the group destroyed, such a MX-ed up. I
don't know if that is possible.

You game to try? Got an initial thread subject?

-- Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message ...

You game to try? Got an initial thread subject?

-- Jim in NC


I'll bite.
If you were interested in building a Zenith CH-701 (or similar), would you go for the leading edge wing slats(as designed), or dispense with them and use vortex generators instead?

--
Jeff R.
Sydney Australia

"Jeff R." wrote in

I'll bite.
If you were interested in building a Zenith CH-701 (or similar), would you
go for the leading edge wing slats(as designed), or dispense with them and
use vortex generators instead?

--
That's a pretty big change to make on something so very important. If you
ask me, get a plane plan or kit designed for your intended mission, then
change little things like how high to put the seat.

My greatest fear in making that decision would be to find out you do not
have good enough aileron control at low speed, too high of stall speeds, and
possibly change the center of lift enough to make it out of control in parts
of the flight envelope. You would be a test pilot.

Get a real aeronautical engineer familiar with small planes before you go
with that change, if you ask me.

-- Jim in NC

On 9-21-2011 17:36, Wayne Paul wrote:
Thank you for the responses.


Maybe this is all a sign of the times and we are becoming a society
where people no longer develop the skills and self confidence to build
or repair thing.

Or maybe, things have gotten SO expensive and folks have changed hobbies
to something cheaper?

This is definitely true in the world of Amateur Radio
where homebuilt system were common and now seldom exist.

Not in my house! In the past 5 years or so, I've built transverters
for 222, 902, 1296 and 10 GHz for myself. Built transverters for 222,
902, 1296, 2304, and 3456 for others to help them get on the upper
bands. Build my own antennas as well. Last commercial rig I bought was
back in about 2003 or 2004.

Scott
N0EDV
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com



Again, thank you for the replies.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F" W7ADK
http://www.soaridaho.com/

"Morgans" wrote in message ...
"Jeff R." wrote in

I'll bite.
If you were interested in building a Zenith CH-701 (or similar), would you
go for the leading edge wing slats(as designed), or dispense with them and
use vortex generators instead?

--
That's a pretty big change to make on something so very important. If you
ask me, get a plane plan or kit designed for your intended mission, then
change little things like how high to put the seat.

My greatest fear in making that decision would be to find out you do not
have good enough aileron control at low speed, too high of stall speeds, and
possibly change the center of lift enough to make it out of control in parts
of the flight envelope. You would be a test pilot.

Get a real aeronautical engineer familiar with small planes before you go
with that change, if you ask me.

-- Jim in NC

Thanks Jim.
Its a well-trodden path, with enthusiastic proponents on both sides.

Slats seem to work great within a very narrow window, but with weight, drag, complexity and cost penalties.
VGs seem (!) to do almost as well with little downside.
It difficult to find a definitive answer. Each side seems too committed to their solution to be impartial.

Sigghhh.
I guess I keep looking for builders who've done it.

--
Jeff R.

On Sep 21, 9:26*am, "Wayne Paul" wrote:
I have been off this group for over a year. *Previously this was a very
active group; however, there has been very few messages since I returned.
It may be due to my service provider, or maybe with the passing of a few key
members the overall activity has significantly diminished.

The main reason for this message is to get some feedback on whether this is
still a viable Homebuilt Aircraft forum.

Respectfully,

Wayne
HP-16 "6F"http://tinyurl.com/N990-6F

There was a time about a year ago IIRC when usenet forums seemed to
just drop dead. rec.autos.driving used to be a very active forum. It
went from active to dead in about a week, just as this forum did at
about the same time. Other forums not so much but stills show a
decline.

People using other media now?

Harry K