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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:52:43 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote:
On Oct 16, 12:28*pm, Sam wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:16:07 -0400, Painius wrote: Hoagland, imo, like anyone who predicts and prognosticates with time/date certainty (e.g. "Disclosure by Obama in 2010 of aliens") begs to be criticized. It is wholly presumptuous to suggest that one is capable of time/date certainty, crystal ball notwithstanding ![]() Is Iapetus artificial? At this time, no one knows Occam's Razor... ...is a flawed perceptual principle. Reality is much more complex than humans perceive it to be so there is no merit in the idea that simple explanations have more validity than complex ones. Simple explanations are more likely to be generalistic and run a greater chance of ommitting relevant information. A better name for Occam's Razor would be Occam's Perceptual Limitation. Be assured you are incorrect. at least Hoagland is willing to call for a direct investigation of his own claims by retrieving Iapetus evidence via a landing. Fair enough. Sure thing, but he gets to pay for the trip, right? I mean he isn't the project manager or anything, but he can certainly fund the mission, if that is his wish. I don't know what to say...?? it seems much better to keep our imaginations at work searching for ways to unveil the secrets of Nature, which to me is always the job of science. That is, when science can be of assistance. Beats using a Magic Book of Spells though, doesn't it? When science is our only friend. This is The End. ~Jim Morrison |
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"Sam" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:52:43 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote: Occam's Razor... ..is a flawed perceptual principle. Reality is much more complex than humans perceive it to be so there is no merit in the idea that simple explanations have more validity than complex ones. Simple explanations are more likely to be generalistic and run a greater chance of ommitting relevant information. if you're omitting relevant information, you're not employing Occam's Razor. A better name for Occam's Razor would be Occam's Perceptual Limitation. Be assured you are incorrect. at least Hoagland is willing to call for a direct investigation of his own claims by retrieving Iapetus evidence via a landing. Fair enough. Sure thing, but he gets to pay for the trip, right? I mean he isn't the project manager or anything, but he can certainly fund the mission, if that is his wish. I don't know what to say...?? Hoagland is a crackpot. He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. -- Greg D. Moore President Green Mountain Software http://www.greenms.com Help honor our WWII Veterans: http://www.honorflight.org/ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:54:30 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:
Hoagland is a crackpot. Opinion. Specific evidence? He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. Specific evidence? |
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"Sam" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:54:30 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: Hoagland is a crackpot. Opinion. Specific evidence? Basically anything he's written. I don't have enough time to write down his bibliography. He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. Specific evidence? You are joking right? Have you seen ANY of the photographs taken of the "face" in the last decade. i.e. the ones that show positively there is NO FACE there and never has been. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...01/ast24may_1/ Start there. -- Greg D. Moore President Green Mountain Software http://www.greenms.com Help honor our WWII Veterans: http://www.honorflight.org/ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:07:40 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:54:30 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: Hoagland is a crackpot. Opinion. Specific evidence? Basically anything he's written. I don't have enough time to write down his bibliography. He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. Specific evidence? You are joking right? No, I'm Sam. |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:07:40 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:54:30 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: Hoagland is a crackpot. Opinion. Specific evidence? Basically anything he's written. I don't have enough time to write down his bibliography. He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. Specific evidence? You are joking right? Have you seen ANY of the photographs taken of the "face" in the last decade. i.e. the ones that show positively there is NO FACE there and never has been. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...01/ast24may_1/ Start there. Specific evidence not supplied. Noted. Thanks. |
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"Sam" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:07:40 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: "Sam" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:54:30 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: Hoagland is a crackpot. Opinion. Specific evidence? Basically anything he's written. I don't have enough time to write down his bibliography. He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. Specific evidence? You are joking right? Have you seen ANY of the photographs taken of the "face" in the last decade. i.e. the ones that show positively there is NO FACE there and never has been. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...01/ast24may_1/ Start there. Specific evidence not supplied. Noted. Thanks. Umm, it doesn't get much more specific than that. But congratulations, you have succeeded in convincing everyone that you're an idiot. -- Greg D. Moore President Green Mountain Software http://www.greenms.com Help honor our WWII Veterans: http://www.honorflight.org/ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. |
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On Oct 17, 7:02*am, Sam wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:54:30 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: Hoagland is a crackpot. Opinion. Specific evidence? His posts. He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. Specific evidence? uhh, well, we can start with the lack of 'cities' and 'monuments' and go from there. His fantasies about "Explorer I" are particularly amusing. |
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On 10/17/2011 10:02 AM, Sam wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:54:30 -0400, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: Hoagland is a crackpot. Opinion. Specific evidence? Face on Mars. He was completely wrong about Mars and I'd wager he's wrong here. Specific evidence? Face on Mars. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:03:09 -0400, HVAC wrote:
Specific evidence? Face on Mars. Assclowns, gather around and listen. If someone demands evidence to back up your assclowny assertions, then responding something equivalent to "er, over there" is no evidence at all. Strike that. It *is* evidence that assclowns have retarded mental capabilities so I apologize fro my error. lol -- "NO GUM !!" she screamed violently. |
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