Does the FAA have written policy WRT landouts?

On Dec 22, 8:50*am, JohnDeRosa wrote:
Here is the link to NTSB Part 830....

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...d=2150208c5457....

The key part seems to be shown in "830.2 Definitions". *To me this
doesn't really apply to an uneventful landout...except that (like most
FAA/NTSB documentation) it is open to interpretation.

"Aircraft accident means an occurrence associated with the operation
of an aircraft which takes place between the time any person boards
the aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have
disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury,
or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage."

"Incident means an occurrence other than an accident, associated with
the operation of an aircraft, which affects or could affect the safety
of operations."

Another Key definition is:

Substantial damage means damage or failure which adversely affects the
structural strength, performance, or flight characteristics of the
aircraft, and which would normally require major repair or replacement
of the affected component. Engine failure or damage limited to an
engine if only one engine fails or is damaged, bent fairings or
cowling, dented skin, small punctured holes in the skin or fabric,
ground damage to rotor or propeller blades, and damage to landing
gear, wheels, tires, flaps, engine accessories, brakes, or wingtips
are not considered “substantial damage” for the purpose of this part.

On Dec 22, 9:02*am, Tony wrote:
On Dec 22, 8:50*am, JohnDeRosa wrote:





Here is the link to NTSB Part 830....

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...d=2150208c5457...

The key part seems to be shown in "830.2 Definitions". *To me this
doesn't really apply to an uneventful landout...except that (like most
FAA/NTSB documentation) it is open to interpretation.

"Aircraft accident means an occurrence associated with the operation
of an aircraft which takes place between the time any person boards
the aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have
disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury,
or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage."

"Incident means an occurrence other than an accident, associated with
the operation of an aircraft, which affects or could affect the safety
of operations."

Another Key definition is:

Substantial damage means damage or failure which adversely affects the
structural strength, performance, or flight characteristics of the
aircraft, and which would normally require major repair or replacement
of the affected component. Engine failure or damage limited to an
engine if only one engine fails or is damaged, bent fairings or
cowling, dented skin, small punctured holes in the skin or fabric,
ground damage to rotor or propeller blades, and damage to landing
gear, wheels, tires, flaps, engine accessories, brakes, or wingtips
are not considered “substantial damage” for the purpose of this part.

I agree that there isn't much in the "Aircraft Accident" or the
"Substantial Damange" definitions that would point anyone to need to
notify the NTSB if a clean landout occurs.

The gotch catch-all is the "Incident" definition which states
"...affects or could affect the safety of operations.". This is
something that someone MIGHT think applies to any landout. This
sentence basically says we need to predict the future because this
clean landout might affect the next non-clean landout. Huh?

- John