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Old March 5th 04, 12:26 PM
Thomas Schoene
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Kevin Brooks wrote:
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How many sorties did the Air Force fly out of Saudi Arabia for OIF?


More than either party will admit, I believe. AWACS, tankers, etc. seem to
have flown from their, though not actual strikers.

Very different situation. We *gave* Okinawa back to the Japanese after
kicking their butts in WWII--with the understanding we get to keep
the base there (and use it as we see fit). A bit different from our
being essentially a visitor in SA.


More importantly, Japan has a similar relationship to Taiwan as the United
States does. Officially it discourages independance, but it has quietly
developed defense ties and would very likely assist in the defense of
Taiwan. They might not actually thrown in combat forces, but Japanese ports
and bases would almost certainly be available, and they might even provide
logistical support.

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Old March 5th 04, 09:45 PM
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How many sorties did the Air Force fly out of Saudi Arabia for OIF?

More than either party will admit, I believe. AWACS, tankers, etc. seem to
have flown from their, though not actual strikers.


Dont be so sure on that last one. They were finding quite inventive ways as
to what could be classified as a "support" aircraft. It will probably be some
time before it is fully declassified as to what aircraft flew from where, but a
certain country east of Iraq that begins with a J was utilized too.


Ron
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Old March 5th 04, 09:51 PM
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"Ron" wrote in message
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How many sorties did the Air Force fly out of Saudi Arabia for OIF?


More than either party will admit, I believe. AWACS, tankers, etc. seem

to
have flown from their, though not actual strikers.


Dont be so sure on that last one. They were finding quite inventive ways

as
to what could be classified as a "support" aircraft. It will probably be

some
time before it is fully declassified as to what aircraft flew from where,

but a
certain country east of Iraq that begins with a J was utilized too.


It is no secret that the US flew over Israel and Jordan to strike Iraq. The
aircraft carrier parked of Isreal in the Med was a hint. Overflying Saudi
only became an issue after USN kept crashing cruise missiles in the Saudi
Desert.


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Old March 5th 04, 10:05 PM
Ron
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Dont be so sure on that last one. They were finding quite inventive ways
as
to what could be classified as a "support" aircraft. It will probably be

some
time before it is fully declassified as to what aircraft flew from where,

but a
certain country east of Iraq that begins with a J was utilized too.


It is no secret that the US flew over Israel and Jordan to strike Iraq. The
aircraft carrier parked of Isreal in the Med was a hint. Overflying Saudi
only became an issue after USN kept crashing cruise missiles in the Saudi
Desert.


I was hinting at the fact that we did fly aircraft from Jordan.






Ron
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Old March 5th 04, 10:11 PM
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"Ron" wrote in message
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Dont be so sure on that last one. They were finding quite inventive

ways
as
to what could be classified as a "support" aircraft. It will probably

be
some
time before it is fully declassified as to what aircraft flew from

where,
but a
certain country east of Iraq that begins with a J was utilized too.


It is no secret that the US flew over Israel and Jordan to strike Iraq.

The
aircraft carrier parked of Isreal in the Med was a hint. Overflying

Saudi
only became an issue after USN kept crashing cruise missiles in the Saudi
Desert.


I was hinting at the fact that we did fly aircraft from Jordan.


It is a different thing to fly from Jordan, than to fly from Saudi. The
comparison of Jordan supporting the democratization of Iraq is a little
different from Saudi doing so. There is also the issue of the US staying
too long on Moslem Holy Land and the need to get out of Saudi. If the
previous Administration had made some move to get out of Saudi, there would
not have been so much co-operation with America's enemies by other Nations.


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Old March 6th 04, 06:31 AM
John Keeney
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"Ron" wrote in message
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Dont be so sure on that last one. They were finding quite inventive

ways
as
to what could be classified as a "support" aircraft. It will probably

be
some
time before it is fully declassified as to what aircraft flew from

where,
but a
certain country east of Iraq that begins with a J was utilized too.


It is no secret that the US flew over Israel and Jordan to strike Iraq.

The
aircraft carrier parked of Isreal in the Med was a hint. Overflying

Saudi
only became an issue after USN kept crashing cruise missiles in the Saudi
Desert.


I was hinting at the fact that we did fly aircraft from Jordan.


Then tell us "a certain country [WEST] of Iraq".
Had me going for a while what you were talking about...


 




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