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Old January 17th 12, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Ray O'Hara[_3_]
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"Keith W" wrote in message
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Ray O'Hara wrote:
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the Argies re-fused bombs from ground use to anti-shipping use and
their attempt failed. many of the re-fused bombs
that did hit failed to explode.
the Antelope was one such bomb that initially failed to explode, it
was later accidently set of by the Bomb defuser.
most others were successfully rendered safe.


The problem with the Hercules bomber was rather more fundmental.

One of the two ships they managed to hit was a US flagged tanker
which did nothing to endear them to the US government.

Keith



that they hit anything is amazing.
Fortunately for the UK the Argie Army and Navy didn't have the balls the
Argie Air Force had.


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Old January 17th 12, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
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On Jan 16, 8:06*pm, "Ray O'Hara" wrote:
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Ray O'Hara wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message


the Argies re-fused bombs from ground use to anti-shipping use and
their attempt failed. many of the re-fused bombs
that did hit failed to explode.
the Antelope was one such bomb that initially failed to explode, it
was later accidently set of by the Bomb defuser.
most others were successfully rendered safe.


The problem with the Hercules bomber was rather more fundmental.


One of the two ships they managed to hit was a US flagged tanker
which did nothing to endear them to the US government.


Keith


that they hit anything is amazing.
Fortunately for the UK the Argie Army and Navy didn't have the balls the
Argie Air Force had.


The guys on the Argentinian GUPPY boat drove their sub about as hard
as they could.
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Old January 17th 12, 08:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
Paul J. Adam[_4_]
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Default Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina

On 17/01/2012 02:28, David E. Powell wrote:
The guys on the Argentinian GUPPY boat drove their sub about as hard
as they could.


The Santa Fe? Not really, they were caught on the surface and crippled
before they knew they were under attack. (Chris Parry, later to make
flag rank and run the Maritime Warfare Centre and then the Joint
Doctrine & Concepts Centre, may have owed some of his career to being
the observer that guided the Wessex in for a radar-guided attack in
fog). Similarly, the San Luis - a newer German-built Type 209 - caused
some irritation, but can hardly be said to have been "hard driven"
(imagine what a determinedly-driven small diesel boat could have
achieved amongst the San Carlos landings, for a nightmare scenario)

Unfortunately for the Argentine Navy in particular, actually fighting a
war turned out to be much more difficult than interrogating attractive
female dissidents aboard the ESMA, hence their decision to
hide-with-pride throughout the conflict.

--
He thinks too much, such men are dangerous.
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Old January 17th 12, 08:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
bill
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Default Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:06:59 -0500, Ray O'Hara wrote:


that they hit anything is amazing.
Fortunately for the UK the Argie Army and Navy didn't have the balls the
Argie Air Force had.


They had the balls alright, they just didn't have the leadership.

Leadership for an airforce fighting a single entity isn't that
difficult, you just load up the weapons and send your young men out to
die.

With an army or a navy you need slightly more intelligence.

The Argentine army and navy had spent the past decade fighting highly
dangerous intellectuals and,, now and again, a lethal trade union
official or even a journalist armed with highly explosive printing
presses.

When they came up against people with guns they were in real trouble
because they weren't used to people who could shoot back.

--
William Black

Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog...
 




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