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On Feb 13, 5:30*pm, George152 wrote:
On 2/14/2012 11:10 AM, Bob Kuykendall wrote: On Feb 13, 1:45 pm, wrote: Pot meet kettle. *US glider pilots aren't in a statistically sound position to criticize BASE jumpers right now... I don't think that that is a particularly constructive way to address that avenue of discussion. As bad a couple of years as soaring has had for 2010 and 2011, I'd put our safety numbers in incidents per hour of exposure or even incidents per exposure cycle up against those of BASE jumping any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Thanks, Bob K. Perhaps you should consider the numbers of BASE jumpers against the numbers of solo glider pilots with a Silver 'C' badge level of experience.... Aviation, no matter what or how we fly, is inherently dangerous. You are wrong. Aviation or at least commercial aviation is inherently safe. |
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On Feb 13, 4:40*pm, Dean Markley wrote:
You are wrong. *Aviation or at least commercial aviation is inherently safe. I don't necessarily agree with that. The phrase I use to describe aviation is "statistically safe, but inherently unforgiving." To me, the phrase "inherently safe" refers to an activity that has few if any operational modes where constant alertness and engagement is a prerequisite for continued survival. I think that something is "inherently safe" when you can turn your back on it, go to sleep, and expect to wake up an hour later in good health. That covers the vast majority of aviation passengers, but certainly not pilots. As the old joke goes, I want to die in my sleep like grandpa, not screaming in terror like his passengers. Thanks, Bob K. |
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On Feb 13, 8:00*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Feb 13, 4:40*pm, Dean Markley wrote: You are wrong. *Aviation or at least commercial aviation is inherently safe. I don't necessarily agree with that. The phrase I use to describe aviation is "statistically safe, but inherently unforgiving." To me, the phrase "inherently safe" refers to an activity that has few if any operational modes where constant alertness and engagement is a prerequisite for continued survival. I think that something is "inherently safe" when you can turn your back on it, go to sleep, and expect to wake up an hour later in good health. That covers the vast majority of aviation passengers, but certainly not pilots. As the old joke goes, I want to die in my sleep like grandpa, not screaming in terror like his passengers. Thanks, Bob K. That's a reasonable clarification Bob. But I'd also argue that the universe is constantly in opposition to your definition. After all, there are comets, asteroids, etc. out there with our name on them. |
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