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Eric -
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I *LIKE* that I am not limited to a 1 mi AT circle. I don't like the idea that some guy can (semi- randomly) go into that turnpoint and catch the only thermal of the day that drifts through that small volume if airspace. With a bigger cylinder, the law of averages gives me better odds of finding a thermal that's as good as a thermal some other contestant may find in the same area. Of course, I've never experienced the "good old days" of racing with picking my own start times. I've also never had a race without a 1000' finish height, or an open/pure-distance day with overnight retrieves, or no radios or cell-phones when I land out. ;-P Maybe I'm just a snot-nosed punk who missed the glory days of sailplane racing (I _am_ jealous of those pics from the 70's showing the huge grids), but I find the current system is still compelling and VERY different from casual/OLC flying. I still have a course, I still have time limits, and I am still trying to outsmart the weather, the sun, and my fellow pilots. --Noel On Mar 14, 8:13*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote: As we shifted to PST and later "open" tasks, it became harder to compare the technical, weather, and strategic skills, and I gradually lost interest as flying a contest increasingly became the same as "opportunistic" (aka "recreational") soaring. Why go to the cost and effort of a contest, when the flying was the same as what I did all the time anyway? |
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On 3/15/2012 2:38 PM, noel.wade wrote:
Eric - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I*LIKE* that I am not limited to a 1 mi AT circle. I don't like the idea that some guy can (semi- randomly) go into that turnpoint and catch the only thermal of the day that drifts through that small volume if airspace. With a bigger cylinder, the law of averages gives me better odds of finding a thermal that's as good as a thermal some other contestant may find in the same area. Of course, I've never experienced the "good old days" of racing with picking my own start times. I've also never had a race without a 1000' finish height, or an open/pure-distance day with overnight retrieves, or no radios or cell-phones when I land out.;-P Maybe I'm just a snot-nosed punk who missed the glory days of sailplane racing (I_am_ jealous of those pics from the 70's showing the huge grids), but I find the current system is still compelling and VERY different from casual/OLC flying. I still have a course, I still have time limits, and I am still trying to outsmart the weather, the sun, and my fellow pilots. Rules attract a constituency that likes them, so you've self-selected yourself into the current situation, as I have self-selected myself out of it! But to the turnpoint size ... We were not limited to a 1 mile circle, instead, we had to fly _over_ the turnpoint (usually a specific end of a runway) and take a picture of the photo target (usually the other end of the runway) with a camera that was mounted on the canopy rail. The problem that eventually led to changes wasn't the luck of finding a better situated thermal a mile or two away, but the possibility a thunderstorm or cirrus would shut off the thermals for miles in all directions near the turnpoint. When this happened, there would a lot of landouts, as most (or no) pilots could get past that turnpoint. The thermal "luck" you mention really wasn't much of a problem, and the longer tasks we flew (compared to the last decade or more) averaged out a lot of the luck inherent in a contest, and made sure the best rose to the top of the list. So, yes: different rules, different people, different times. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) |
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On Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:38:04 PM UTC-5, noel.wade wrote:
Eric - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I *LIKE* that I am not limited to a 1 mi AT circle. I don't like the idea that some guy can (semi- randomly) go into that turnpoint and catch the only thermal of the day that drifts through that small volume if airspace. With a bigger cylinder, the law of averages gives me better odds of finding a thermal that's as good as a thermal some other contestant may find in the same area. Interesting. I see the same situation in EXACTLY the opposite way: With large area tasks, a guy can semi-randomly catch the only thermal of the day and coast to an easy win; with small turnpoints (and a 1 mile circle is pretty small at 90 knots!) everyone has to solve pretty much the same problems. I don't want the law of averages involved, I want pilot skills involved. Area tasks were developed (and rightly so) to allow tasks in iffy weather - not as a replacement for assigned tasks on good, predictable days. I think many CDs use area tasks because they are a lot easier to call (BTDT). They are a lot better than the detestable one-turnpoint 3 hour MAT! And they are useful when racing handicapped classes. Called intelligently (which is not a 2.5 hour task with two 30mile radius turnpoints 60 miles apart!) they are a lot of fun. Of course, I've never experienced the "good old days" of racing with picking my own start times. I've also never had a race without a 1000' finish height, or an open/pure-distance day with overnight retrieves, or no radios or cell-phones when I land out. ;-P Ahh, the good old days of formation 50' line finishes over the hangars - at redline, dumping your ballast on the barbecue, pulling up into the line of gliders on downwind (at 500' or so...) to take your turn to land. Now that was FUN! When you got out of your ship you were pumped! (please, no safety retorts, you guys have won that fight...) Cheers, Kirk 66 |
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