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On Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:38:43 AM UTC-7, Kimmo Hytoenen wrote:
In our club we have "Academy" training evenings during winter season. Few weeks ago I was telling about FLARM units, and this week one our member who works for accident investigation was telling about safety issues in competitions. Safety is an issue here, since within 12 months lifes of 4 Finnish glider pilot were lost. 2 in midair with an eagle (!!), one because of motorized take-off spoilers open, and one because of midair with other competitor. The conclusion of the last incident, midair between two competing planes, both equipped with FLARM units, flying 10 minutes very close to each others, was really scary. FLARM seems to be something that might warn you if someone is approaching under the same cloudstreet, but in competition where you have several planes near to you all the time, you still might loose situation awareness. FLARM antenna installation is really a problem. PowerFlarm seems to have two antennas, I have no idea how that works. I have installed several FLARMs into our club gliders, and I have used "RF Range Analysis" tool provided by FLARM. http://flarm.com/support/analyze/index_en.html This should tell you if your antenna installation has problems - and there often are problems. I would like to see this analysis extended into 3 dimensional graphic. Everyone who installs FLARM in a plane should use this analysis tool. Kimmo, thank for sharing and very sorry to hear about the fatalities, especially giving that 3 life were lost in midairs in one year alone. Can you share some more details so we can all learn? This is the first time I am hearing of a fatal midair collision with an eagle. One more thing to worry about now... Ramy |
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At 08:12 22 March 2012, Ramy wrote:
On Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:38:43 AM UTC-7, Kimmo Hytoenen wrote: In our club we have "Academy" training evenings during winter=20 season. Few weeks ago I was telling about FLARM units, and this=20 week one our member who works for accident investigation was=20 telling about safety issues in competitions. Safety is an issue here,=20 since within 12 months lifes of 4 Finnish glider pilot were lost. 2 in=20 midair with an eagle (!!), one because of motorized take-off spoilers=20 open, and one because of midair with other competitor. =20 The conclusion of the last incident, midair between two competing=20 planes, both equipped with FLARM units, flying 10 minutes very=20 close to each others, was really scary. FLARM seems to be=20 something that might warn you if someone is approaching under the=20 same cloudstreet, but in competition where you have several planes=20 near to you all the time, you still might loose situation awareness. =20 FLARM antenna installation is really a problem. PowerFlarm seems=20 to have two antennas, I have no idea how that works. I have=20 installed several FLARMs into our club gliders, and I have used "RF=20 Range Analysis" tool provided by FLARM. http://flarm.com/support/analyze/index_en.html This should tell you if your antenna installation has problems - and=20 there often are problems. I would like to see this analysis extended=20 into 3 dimensional graphic. =20 Everyone who installs FLARM in a plane should use this analysis=20 tool. Kimmo, thank for sharing and very sorry to hear about the fatalities, espec= ially giving that 3 life were lost in midairs in one year alone. Can you sh= are some more details so we can all learn? This is the first time I am hear= ing of a fatal midair collision with an eagle. One more thing to worry abou= t now... Ramy The accident took place last autumn in Jaca, northern Spain, where Finnish gliding academy was having training camp. A large bird collided with the upper part of the vertical stabilizer, the connection point with horizontal stabilizer. The impact has been severe, since the horizontal stabilized was cut half, horizontal stabilized lost completely, and the glider become uncontrollable. Both pilots jumped, but altitude was only about 200 m (just passing mountain top) and chutes did not have time to open. Glider was duo discus, Finnish call-sign OH-1000. Couple months before I was flying the same plane in the same place. This is the official preliminary report in Finnish. http://www.turvallisuustutkinta.fi//...taista/Muuttie dotteet/1302674026783 |
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