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Old May 1st 12, 05:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Crunch Alert (USA) - hugely serious but (apparently) non-fatal

I was in flight that day and recall hearing a few pilots asking if anyone
had heard from Angel lately. I didn't learn of his misfortune until the
next morning. From descriptions I've heard of the accident, it sounds like
a rudder cable broke. I have not seen the wreck and I'm not a professional
accident investigator, this is just my opinion based on what I've heard.
I've also looked at another JS-1 on the field and there's a frayed rudder
cable.

It seems like all modern gliders use the same or a variation of the same
mechanism for connecting and adjusting rudder cables and pedals. You can
bet that, before my next flight in my LAK-17a, I'll be giving those parts a
very close look.

I was shocked to hear of Angel's accident and am so glad that he survived.



"Don Johnstone" wrote in message
. com...
At 15:00 01 May 2012, Papa3 wrote:


I watched a number of pilots trying to get out of their gliders at Perry
on=
the ground. Between an excess of personal ballast and declining muscle
s=
trength, I'd be willing to bet half of them could never get out with any
in=
creased lateral or positive, vertical loading. =20


I think you might find that adrenaline takes over in that situation

Related to this, I'm curious why static lines aren't prevalent in the US.


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It seems all of the European made gliders have a provision for the static
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ine. Any of our Euro friends care to illuminate us on whether use of
stati=
c lines is common there?


Static lines are not used here in the UK for the very good reason that
pilots tend to exit the glider wearing the parachute and walk away. I
think
the fitting of a static line loop in the glider was an LBA requirement but
as far as I am aware no one uses it for the reason given above.

If you want a good laugh have a look at this. The demonstrator is
attempting to show that the practice of undoing the chest strap before the
leg straps is unecessary because you won't ever get dragged by the chute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kx-buGUOhw


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Old May 1st 12, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Greg Arnold
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Default Crunch Alert (USA) - hugely serious but (apparently) non-fatal

On 5/1/2012 9:20 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
I was in flight that day and recall hearing a few pilots asking if
anyone had heard from Angel lately. I didn't learn of his misfortune
until the next morning. From descriptions I've heard of the accident, it
sounds like a rudder cable broke. I have not seen the wreck and I'm not
a professional accident investigator, this is just my opinion based on
what I've heard. I've also looked at another JS-1 on the field and
there's a frayed rudder cable.



Where on the cable is it frayed? At the rudder? At the pedals?


It seems like all modern gliders use the same or a variation of the same
mechanism for connecting and adjusting rudder cables and pedals. You can
bet that, before my next flight in my LAK-17a, I'll be giving those
parts a very close look.


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Old May 2nd 12, 03:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Crunch Alert (USA) - hugely serious but (apparently) non-fatal

What I saw was approximately 6 inches forward of the forward bulkhead. Just
about where the cable enters the S-tube.


"Greg Arnold" wrote in message
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On 5/1/2012 9:20 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
I was in flight that day and recall hearing a few pilots asking if
anyone had heard from Angel lately. I didn't learn of his misfortune
until the next morning. From descriptions I've heard of the accident, it
sounds like a rudder cable broke. I have not seen the wreck and I'm not
a professional accident investigator, this is just my opinion based on
what I've heard. I've also looked at another JS-1 on the field and
there's a frayed rudder cable.



Where on the cable is it frayed? At the rudder? At the pedals?


It seems like all modern gliders use the same or a variation of the same
mechanism for connecting and adjusting rudder cables and pedals. You can
bet that, before my next flight in my LAK-17a, I'll be giving those
parts a very close look.



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Old May 1st 12, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Marc
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Default Crunch Alert (USA) - hugely serious but (apparently) non-fatal

On May 1, 9:20*am, "Dan Marotta" wrote:
It seems like all modern gliders use the same or a variation of the same
mechanism for connecting and adjusting rudder cables and pedals. *You can
bet that, before my next flight in my LAK-17a, I'll be giving those parts a
very close look.


If your serial number is 141 or less, service bulletin
017A.5.52.005A already requires installation
of plastic tubes over the rudder cables where they pass through the
pedal attachment S-tubes, to prevent fraying. The tubes should be
visible, if the fix was applied...

Marc
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Old May 2nd 12, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Crunch Alert (USA) - hugely serious but (apparently) non-fatal

Thanks, Marc. Mine is S/N 119. I'm towing today (leaving for the airport
in 20 minutes) and I'll check that before pulling the tug out of the hangar.


"Marc" wrote in message
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On May 1, 9:20 am, "Dan Marotta" wrote:
It seems like all modern gliders use the same or a variation of the same
mechanism for connecting and adjusting rudder cables and pedals. You can
bet that, before my next flight in my LAK-17a, I'll be giving those parts
a
very close look.


If your serial number is 141 or less, service bulletin
017A.5.52.005A already requires installation
of plastic tubes over the rudder cables where they pass through the
pedal attachment S-tubes, to prevent fraying. The tubes should be
visible, if the fix was applied...

Marc

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Old May 1st 12, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
sisu1a
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Default Crunch Alert (USA) - hugely serious but (apparently) non-fatal

You can
bet that, before my next flight in my LAK-17a, I'll be giving those parts a
very close look.


Always a good idea, especially on a LAK-17a! I won't mention any
names, but a well known fellow around here had his 17a rudder cable
disengage (factory installed incorrect swedge fitting... oops!),
leaving him rudderless a few years ago. Thank goodness there are no
springs in that design, as he was fairly low so was committed to
landing. Titanium testicles and a cool head combined with skill and
luck for a successful outcome.

Glad the JS1 pilot is OK; I hope he buys his rigger a sixpack and
writes this up someday. I also hope this doesn't screw Jonkers...

-Paul

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Old May 2nd 12, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Crunch Alert (USA) - hugely serious but (apparently) non-fatal

On Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:04:55 UTC+1, sisu1a wrote:

Glad the JS1 pilot is OK; I hope he buys his rigger a sixpack and
writes this up someday. I also hope this doesn't screw Jonkers...

-Paul


Notwithstanding the pilot's impressive account of the incident we don't yet know the underlying cause. I too am hoping and, in my case, betting that Jonker Sailplanes will not be seriously affected in the long term (any more than SH was by their spar problem) providing that they respond promptly and appropriately, as I expect they will. Speaking as one who went ahead with a JS1 order yesterday - after hearing about this accident.

John


 




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