Looking for info on world record jet aircraft

On Jun 9, 2:08*am, Paul Saccani wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:33:57 -0700 (PDT), Ted Parvo





wrote:
I'm looking for *verification for a claimed Guinness World Record for
World's smallest jet aircraft. A BD5.

The link on the Guinness site has not worked for months. I have
contacted them, and through email exchanges, their representative has
indicated they have no knowledge of this aircraft

The person claiming the record, a guy by the name of Juan Jimenez, has
informed me that the reason I cannot find the record is because I
"have the IQ of a pin", and do not know "which database to search".

I am quite sure I have searched the "correct database", and reasonably
sure the people at Guinness know their own database and how to search
it, but the final response to detailed questions about this BD5 is
that they have no knowledge of it.

Can anyone in this forum shed light on this discrepancy?

If you check the following URL,

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/...smallest-aircr...

it lists the following; Juan Jimenez, Smallest Jet Aircraft, United
States, 1 Jan 2004.

"The smallest jet aircraft is the home-built Bede BD-5J Microjet owned
by Juan Jimenez of San Juan, Puerto Rico, USA, which weighs 162 kg
(358 lb), is 3.7 m (12 ft) long, has a 5.7 m (17 ft) wingspan, and can
fly at 483 km/h (300 mph).

There are actually several hundred BD-5 aircraft flying, produced and
sold in kit form by the Bede aircraft company. However, this is the
smallest (by weight) jet engined example."

Which is, of course, quite wrong. as the Cri-Cri MC15J is both smaller
and lighter, its MTOW being only 8 kg heavier than the empty weight of
the supposed "record" holder.

Nonetheless, it would seem true that he has a Guinness World Record,
though of course, it isn't the real record.
--
Cheers,
Paul Saccani
Perth, Western Australia.

I recall the long discussion of Jaun and that airplane. IIRC he never
flew it. Could be wrong.

I wonder what ever happened to the nut.

Harry K

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:

I wonder what ever happened to the nut.

Harry K

Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never achieve what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller than the BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone= who owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all you dweebs that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why the BD-5J has held the record for more than 30 years now.

And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the Texas newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap entertainment. The chump thought that a web site problem that was affecting quite a few records and was preventing mine from showing up somehow meant Guinness had no knowledge of my record. Suffice to say that he tucked his tail and never came back here after this entry started working again, among many others.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/...t-jet-aircraft

And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama. Cya.

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wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:

I wonder what ever happened to the nut.

Harry K

Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never achieve
what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller than the BD-5J
has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone= who owns/owned one
could have applied for the record. So sad for all you dweebs that the record
must be claimed by weight =and= size, and the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J
by almost a foot, and that's why the BD-5J has held the record for more than
30 years now.

And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the
garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the Texas
newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap entertainment. The
chump thought that a web site problem that was affecting quite a few records
and was preventing mine from showing up somehow meant Guinness had no
knowledge of my record. Suffice to say that he tucked his tail and never came
back here after this entry started working again, among many others.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/...aircraft-jet-a
ircraft

And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama. Cya.



Has this jet ever been flown?

On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 18:51:17 -0700, parvomon wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:

I wonder what ever happened to the nut.

Harry K

Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never
achieve what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller
than the BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone=
who owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all
you dweebs that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and
the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why
the BD-5J has held the record for more than 30 years now.

And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the
garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the
Texas newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap
entertainment. The chump thought that a web site problem that was
affecting quite a few records and was preventing mine from showing up
somehow meant Guinness had no knowledge of my record. Suffice to say
that he tucked his tail and never came back here after this entry
started working again, among many others.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/...1000/smallest-
aircraft-jet-a
ircraft

And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama.
Cya.


Has this jet ever been flown?

I have discovered that it is impossible to reason with him.
He evades logic and throws out taunts when he has no other answer.

He has been in my kill file for years.

In article ,
whatever wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 18:51:17 -0700, parvomon wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:

I wonder what ever happened to the nut.

Harry K

Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never
achieve what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller
than the BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone=
who owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all
you dweebs that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and
the CriCri is longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why
the BD-5J has held the record for more than 30 years now.

And about PeeWee Parvo, let's just say he's just another of the
garden-variety mental-midget nip-at-the-heels trolls over in one of the
Texas newsgroups, where I bitchslap them every day for cheap
entertainment. The chump thought that a web site problem that was
affecting quite a few records and was preventing mine from showing up
somehow meant Guinness had no knowledge of my record. Suffice to say
that he tucked his tail and never came back here after this entry
started working again, among many others.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/...1000/smallest-
aircraft-jet-a
ircraft

And with that, I'll leave you boys to whine and stomp and cry to mama.
Cya.


Has this jet ever been flown?

I have discovered that it is impossible to reason with him.
He evades logic and throws out taunts when he has no other answer.


He's not the flyingest jet in the hangar, but thankfully he doesn't realize it. He's a source of entertainment for many in the political newsgroups, sort of like Monty Python's Black Knight, crossed with a lizard..

His moniker seems to be a misrepresentation, it should be Pushbd5.

He has been in my kill file for years.


Just think of all the free entertainment you've missed.

In article ,
Paul Saccani wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:07:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:03:49 AM UTC-4, Harry K wrote:

I wonder what ever happened to the nut.

Harry K

Right here, K-boi, laughing at all the jealous fools who will never achieve
what I have accomplished. The claim that the CriCri is smaller than the
BD-5J has been laughed at for years. If it were true, =anyone= who
owns/owned one could have applied for the record. So sad for all you dweebs
that the record must be claimed by weight =and= size, and the CriCri is
longer than the BD-5J by almost a foot, and that's why the BD-5J has held
the record for more than 30 years now.

The Cri-Cri MC15J is about half the weight of your BD-5, at 80 kg
versus 162.7 kg. *Whilst your stated length, 3.7 m, is shorter than
the 3.9 m length of the MC-15J, your wingspan, at 5.7m, is .8 m wider
than the 4.9 m wingspan of the MC15J Cri-Cri.

This makes your aircraft the shortest jet, but in no way does it make
it the smallest.

Not the lightest, not the smallest.

Those are the facts.

*I wish you luck with the world's shortest jet.

My limited experience with them is that they have unpleasant handling
and occupants do not fare well in a forced landing, even on an
airfield.

I would suggest that you provide some crushable structure under the
seat. *In a gear up landing, there is strong tendency to back injuries
and paraplegia, which you don't want. *There is essentially no
distance between your backside and the ground when you land wheels up,
and the accelerations are quite great.

I don't think any landing issues are of concern to the owner of the kit in question.