What Ever Happened? Cadillac Commercial Accident

On Monday, June 11, 2012 2:47:51 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
On Monday, June 11, 2012 11:20:41 AM UTC-7, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Jun 11, 9:25*am, JohnDeRosa wrote:

..I wondered if the final NTSB report was ever
released. *It hasn't and still shows as "preliminary" 8 months
later...

John, it is indeed typical for the NTSB to take at least 12 months to
investigate fatal accidents and release a probable cause. Non-fatal
accidents are typically wrapped up in about six months.

Thanks, Bob K.

One must be wonder why it needs to take so long. It's not like a commercial airline accidents which takes months or years to reconstruct. In almost all glider accidents all the facts are known in a week, so why wait? By the time the NTSB report is released, the accident is already forgotten and the value of the report is significantly diminished. This is why we should share all available info on public forums such as RAS as soon as possible so we can discuss and make our own conclusions. I heard that the details of this particular accident is known to few other club members but they keep it to themselves.

Ramy

Ramy

With all the years of accident reports and statistics available, why is it so critical to instantly analyse every accident?
Sometimes getting the word out is a really good thing, like the rudder issue a bit back. I'll bet a few guys checked their cables.
That said, I seriously doubt we will learn much from the above accident that hasn't been learned many times before.
The other point of view
UH

On Monday, June 11, 2012 6:01:23 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
On Monday, June 11, 2012 2:47:51 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
On Monday, June 11, 2012 11:20:41 AM UTC-7, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Jun 11, 9:25*am, JohnDeRosa wrote:

..I wondered if the final NTSB report was ever
released. *It hasn't and still shows as "preliminary" 8 months
later...

John, it is indeed typical for the NTSB to take at least 12 months to
investigate fatal accidents and release a probable cause. Non-fatal
accidents are typically wrapped up in about six months.

Thanks, Bob K.

One must be wonder why it needs to take so long. It's not like a commercial airline accidents which takes months or years to reconstruct. In almost all glider accidents all the facts are known in a week, so why wait? By the time the NTSB report is released, the accident is already forgotten and the value of the report is significantly diminished. This is why we should share all available info on public forums such as RAS as soon as possible so we can discuss and make our own conclusions. I heard that the details of this particular accident is known to few other club members but they keep it to themselves.

Ramy

Ramy

With all the years of accident reports and statistics available, why is it so critical to instantly analyse every accident?
Sometimes getting the word out is a really good thing, like the rudder issue a bit back. I'll bet a few guys checked their cables.
That said, I seriously doubt we will learn much from the above accident that hasn't been learned many times before.
The other point of view
UH

I respectfully disagree. I find something to learn, or at least to remind myself, in almost every accident report. Every accident is different, even when falling under the same category as stall/spin. Also, we can't know if there is anything new to learn until we learn the details, can we? And last, repeated reminders of how accidents happen, can only benefit us, especially those newer to the sport which have yet to learn about all the possible ways we can kill ourselves...

Ramy