hi alt oxygen

In article , ArtKramr
writes
Subject: hi alt oxygen
From: Dave Eadsforth
Date: 3/11/04 3:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



Just out of interest, Art, did you ever have to use the A-7 mask (and
presumably a throat mike?) or was the A-14 in universal use while you
were operational?

Cheers,

Dave

--
Dave Eadsforth


In training at Cadet school we used a mask that had a rubber bag hannging down.

I guess that that might have been an A-7 or an A-8 - I'm no expert, I
just looked up a few things on the net once this thread started.

We called it a spit bag. Every few minutes you had to pull the plug from the
bottom of the bag and drain out the saliva.

Yuk!

In cold weather it froze and
couldn't be drained.

Now I wonder if a swig of whisky could have solved that?

Once we graduated and went to transitional we were used
low pressure demand masks. More comfortable.

That sounds like the A-14 demand mask

Besides those early high pressure
systems were given to blowing up if even a minute amount of grease came in
contactwith the oxygen.

Charming - and an opportunity for an act of malice...

It was a 1,000 lb/sq/ inch sytem., The later demand
masks worked on a low pressure system and were much safer as well as more
comfortable.

From the photos I have seen it covered almost the whole of the lower
face, which instinctively looks more comfortable than some other types.
I have used the RAF Type H, which edges into the cheeks somewhat, and
when you take it off you look like Homer Simpson.

Sorry.I don't remember the designations.

I only discovered them recently...



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Cheers,

Dave

--
Dave Eadsforth

Subject: hi alt oxygen
From: Dave Eadsforth
Date: 3/12/04 3:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , ArtKramr
writes
Subject: hi alt oxygen
From: Dave Eadsforth
Date: 3/11/04 3:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



Just out of interest, Art, did you ever have to use the A-7 mask (and
presumably a throat mike?) or was the A-14 in universal use while you
were operational?

Cheers,

Dave

--
Dave Eadsforth


In training at Cadet school we used a mask that had a rubber bag hannging
down.

I guess that that might have been an A-7 or an A-8 - I'm no expert, I
just looked up a few things on the net once this thread started.

We called it a spit bag. Every few minutes you had to pull the plug from
the
bottom of the bag and drain out the saliva.

Yuk!

In cold weather it froze and
couldn't be drained.

Now I wonder if a swig of whisky could have solved that?

Once we graduated and went to transitional we were used
low pressure demand masks. More comfortable.

That sounds like the A-14 demand mask

Besides those early high pressure
systems were given to blowing up if even a minute amount of grease came in
contactwith the oxygen.

Charming - and an opportunity for an act of malice...

It was a 1,000 lb/sq/ inch sytem., The later demand
masks worked on a low pressure system and were much safer as well as more
comfortable.

From the photos I have seen it covered almost the whole of the lower
face, which instinctively looks more comfortable than some other types.
I have used the RAF Type H, which edges into the cheeks somewhat, and
when you take it off you look like Homer Simpson.

Sorry.I don't remember the designations.

I only discovered them recently...




We could usually open up the frozen spit bag opening by rolling it hard between
our thumb and forefinger until the ice cracked, then blow hard into the mask to
blow the opening clear. What a pain especially if it froze when we were busy.
And it always seemed to freeze when we were busy.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Dave Eadsforth wrote:


From the photos I have seen it covered almost the whole of the lower
face, which instinctively looks more comfortable than some other types.
I have used the RAF Type H, which edges into the cheeks somewhat, and
when you take it off you look like Homer Simpson.


That was the kind that we wore in the fifties , sixties etc. Sort
of a dark green colour and they had a carbon microphone in them
for the intercom system.
--

-Gord.

In article , Gord Beaman
?@?.? writes
Dave Eadsforth wrote:


From the photos I have seen it covered almost the whole of the lower
face, which instinctively looks more comfortable than some other types.
I have used the RAF Type H, which edges into the cheeks somewhat, and
when you take it off you look like Homer Simpson.


That was the kind that we wore in the fifties , sixties etc. Sort
of a dark green colour and they had a carbon microphone in them
for the intercom system.
--

-Gord.

Yup, Gord, that's the one; still very much in favour as the 'H' will
plug into both the WWII 'C' helmet loom and the post-war 'G' canvas
helmets.

If you want a good laugh, let me have your mail id and I'll send you a
picture of me taken last year after a Tiger Moth flight; with my H mask,
C helmet, the C jack plug shoved into a NATO converter and then into a
carbon mike convertor box - everything dangles (including me - I'd just
finished stretching my back when the shutter was snapped).

Cheers,

Dave
--
Dave Eadsforth

Dave Eadsforth wrote:


That was the kind that we wore in the fifties , sixties etc. Sort
of a dark green colour and they had a carbon microphone in them
for the intercom system.
--

-Gord.

Yup, Gord, that's the one; still very much in favour as the 'H' will
plug into both the WWII 'C' helmet loom and the post-war 'G' canvas
helmets.

If you want a good laugh, let me have your mail id and I'll send you a
picture of me taken last year after a Tiger Moth flight; with my H mask,
C helmet, the C jack plug shoved into a NATO converter and then into a
carbon mike convertor box - everything dangles (including me - I'd just
finished stretching my back when the shutter was snapped).

Cheers,

Dave

Ok Dave...I need to do it in a sort of round about fashion though
(it has the ad(disad)vantage of showing my picture also) use the
URL http://www.qrz.com/ and type into the little window 've1eo'.
That's my Amateur Radio callsign, then click on 'show email
address' just below my picture...

Why I'm so touchy about spam is that I got into a real mess here
on usenet with spam. I had my real address showing somewhere in
my message headers and in about two years it had built up to 5 or
6 hundred msgs a day. Last measured it at 945 pieces in a 12 hour
period. It had shut my email right down so I had to change my
email address. Hateful task that...
--

-Gord.

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:46:53 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
wrote:

Dave Eadsforth wrote:


That was the kind that we wore in the fifties , sixties etc. Sort
of a dark green colour and they had a carbon microphone in them
for the intercom system.
--

-Gord.

Yup, Gord, that's the one; still very much in favour as the 'H' will
plug into both the WWII 'C' helmet loom and the post-war 'G' canvas
helmets.

If you want a good laugh, let me have your mail id and I'll send you a
picture of me taken last year after a Tiger Moth flight; with my H mask,
C helmet, the C jack plug shoved into a NATO converter and then into a
carbon mike convertor box - everything dangles (including me - I'd just
finished stretching my back when the shutter was snapped).

Cheers,

Dave

Ok Dave...I need to do it in a sort of round about fashion though
(it has the ad(disad)vantage of showing my picture also) use the
URL http://www.qrz.com/ and type into the little window 've1eo'.
That's my Amateur Radio callsign, then click on 'show email
address' just below my picture...

Why I'm so touchy about spam is that I got into a real mess here
on usenet with spam. I had my real address showing somewhere in
my message headers and in about two years it had built up to 5 or
6 hundred msgs a day. Last measured it at 945 pieces in a 12 hour
period. It had shut my email right down so I had to change my
email address. Hateful task that...

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:46:53 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
wrote:


Why I'm so touchy about spam is that I got into a real mess here
on usenet with spam. I had my real address showing somewhere in
my message headers and in about two years it had built up to 5 or
6 hundred msgs a day. Last measured it at 945 pieces in a 12 hour
period. It had shut my email right down so I had to change my
email address. Hateful task that...


Spoof it...

My email as far as Usenet is concerened is
a computerised bot prog will try and use the whole thing... a thinking
human being can look at it and select to remove the obvious spam
blocking thing

rnf2 wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:46:53 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
wrote:


Why I'm so touchy about spam is that I got into a real mess here
on usenet with spam. I had my real address showing somewhere in
my message headers and in about two years it had built up to 5 or
6 hundred msgs a day. Last measured it at 945 pieces in a 12 hour
period. It had shut my email right down so I had to change my
email address. Hateful task that...


Spoof it...

My email as far as Usenet is concerened is
a computerised bot prog will try and use the whole thing... a thinking
human being can look at it and select to remove the obvious spam
blocking thing

Yes...I did that...see my id line above...but somewhere in the
header my real email address was showing. It's in the area that
shows when you select "Show all header fields".

--

-Gord.

You might try www.mailblocks.com, though in my experience the free
account isn't generous enough unless you empty the Pending mailbox
every day. Pay $10 a year and you're golden.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:35:11 +1300, rnf2
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:46:53 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
wrote:


Why I'm so touchy about spam is that I got into a real mess here
on usenet with spam. I had my real address showing somewhere in
my message headers and in about two years it had built up to 5 or
6 hundred msgs a day. Last measured it at 945 pieces in a 12 hour
period. It had shut my email right down so I had to change my
email address. Hateful task that...


Spoof it...

My email as far as Usenet is concerened is
a computerised bot prog will try and use the whole thing... a thinking
human being can look at it and select to remove the obvious spam
blocking thing

all the best -- Dan Ford
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