Beechcraft made in China

It's definitely going to be a problem. This is the same country that allows
what is essentially toxic waste in baby formula. But most conservative
Americans buy the Republican line and won't really care about all the jobs
and companies going over to China until they see their first Chinese-made
car racing in NASCAR. By then it will be too late.

"Carolyn Peters" wrote in message
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Airbus builds aircraft in China and will soon do so in the US. Has
certification been an impediment?




On 7/9/2012 10:00 PM, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Hawker Beech has been sold to a Chinese aviation company. My guess is
that, in
ten years, there won't be anything American about Beech except the name,
if
even that is retained.

Given the way aircraft are certified, that isn't very likely unless they
recertify all the existing aircraft, which would be very stupid and the
Chinese are not stupid.

And there is still Hawker Beechcraft Defense Co., which is not effected
by the sale of the GA division.

Beech is no more going to be "Chinese" than Budweiser, Michelob, and
Corona Extra have become Belgian-Brazilian.

Robert Barker wrote:
It's definitely going to be a problem. This is the same country that
allows what is essentially toxic waste in baby formula. But most
conservative Americans buy the Republican line and won't really care
about all the jobs and companies going over to China until they see
their first Chinese-made car racing in NASCAR. By then it will be too late.

Chinese technology is as good as anywhere else.
From what I've seen of Chinese built aircraft they're as good as any....
Any country in the world has its rogues

Speaking of technology: many experts think the next footprints on the moon will not only leave the "made in China' imprints in the dust, but will be worn by Chinese astronauts. They are graduating thousands of space scientists and aeronautical engineers every year, and they all all working on state funded programs. A little of that brainpower could improve a general aviation airplane.

Friday, July 13, 2012 4:29:41 PM UTC-4, george wrote:
Robert Barker wrote:
> It's definitely going to be a problem. This is the same country that
> allows what is essentially toxic waste in baby formula. But most
> conservative Americans buy the Republican line and won't really care
> about all the jobs and companies going over to China until they see
> their first Chinese-made car racing in NASCAR. By then it will be too late.

Chinese technology is as good as anywhere else.
From what I've seen of Chinese built aircraft they're as good as any....
Any country in the world has its rogues

Yep. The modern Republicans are attacking education. The dumber they make
us, the less informed they keep us, the more likely we are to vote
Republican. Republicans of 40 years ago would be SCREAMING at what the
current leaders are doing to their party...

"a" wrote in message
...

Speaking of technology: many experts think the next footprints on the
moon will not only leave the "made in China' imprints in the dust, but
will be worn by Chinese astronauts. They are graduating thousands of space
scientists and aeronautical engineers every year, and they all all working
on state funded programs. A little of that brainpower could improve a
general aviation airplane.

Friday, July 13, 2012 4:29:41 PM UTC-4, george wrote:
Robert Barker wrote:
> It's definitely going to be a problem. This is the same country
that
> allows what is essentially toxic waste in baby formula. But most
> conservative Americans buy the Republican line and won't really
care
> about all the jobs and companies going over to China until they see
> their first Chinese-made car racing in NASCAR. By then it will be
too late.

Chinese technology is as good as anywhere else.
From what I've seen of Chinese built aircraft they're as good as
any....
Any country in the world has its rogues

On 7/13/2012 8:01 PM, Robert Barker wrote:
Yep. The modern Republicans are attacking education. The dumber they
make us, the less informed they keep us, the more likely we are to vote
Republican. Republicans of 40 years ago would be SCREAMING at what the
current leaders are doing to their party...

Speaking of education, do you think it's possible that you might learn
what rec.aviation.piloting refers to? Looks like you got your parties
backwards! :-)

george152 writes:

Chinese technology is as good as anywhere else.

In part because a lot of it comes directly from the United States, both
legally and illegally.

Mxsmanic wrote:
george152 writes:

Chinese technology is as good as anywhere else.

In part because a lot of it comes directly from the United States, both
legally and illegally.

Oh?
I'll bet that your world has the Made in China trademark all over it.

george152 writes:

I'll bet that your world has the Made in China trademark all over it.

Quite so, but that doesn't mean that the Chinese developed the technology that
they are using to make things.

A key goal of all agreements the Chinese sign with foreigners is transfer of
technology. Some American managers seem not to realize that if you transfer
all of your manufacturing and all of your technology to partners in China,
there is no longer any need for managers in America, and the Chinese partners
can simply start selling goods directly. This is what Dell and other companies
discovered the hard way.

In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

george152 writes:

I'll bet that your world has the Made in China trademark all over it.

Quite so, but that doesn't mean that the Chinese developed the technology that
they are using to make things.

A key goal of all agreements the Chinese sign with foreigners is transfer of
technology. Some American managers seem not to realize that if you transfer
all of your manufacturing and all of your technology to partners in China,
there is no longer any need for managers in America, and the Chinese partners
can simply start selling goods directly. This is what Dell and other companies
discovered the hard way.

I have a friend who makes and sells pool equipment, some of which is
made in China. He says that you have to have different parts made by
different companies, else the Chinese company will start making clones
and undercut you.

On 7/13/2012 2:06 PM, Robert Barker wrote:
It's definitely going to be a problem.

Really? What problems have been demonstrated with Airbus planes
produced in China??? Please do elaborate with you knowledge.

This is the same country that
allows what is essentially toxic waste in baby formula.

The whole country? Why don't you point out that the USA FDA last year
admitted that chicken meat sold in USA contains arsenic? Or is arsenic
ok only if it is American arsenic?



But most
conservative Americans buy the Republican line and won't really care
about all the jobs and companies going over to China until they see
their first Chinese-made car racing in NASCAR. By then it will be too
late.

Oh I see. So you have no facts, no information, no analysis. You just
wanted to make a stupid unsupported comment about Republicans. Glad to
see where this newsgroup has gone....


"Carolyn Peters" wrote in message
...
Airbus builds aircraft in China and will soon do so in the US. Has
certification been an impediment?




On 7/9/2012 10:00 PM, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Hawker Beech has been sold to a Chinese aviation company. My guess
is that, in
ten years, there won't be anything American about Beech except the
name, if
even that is retained.

Given the way aircraft are certified, that isn't very likely unless they
recertify all the existing aircraft, which would be very stupid and the
Chinese are not stupid.

And there is still Hawker Beechcraft Defense Co., which is not effected
by the sale of the GA division.

Beech is no more going to be "Chinese" than Budweiser, Michelob, and
Corona Extra have become Belgian-Brazilian.