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Old July 20th 12, 02:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Quality of SUA file for WGC Uvalde

Dear hlt,

I produce the freely redistributable airspace files for the US upon which at least some of the Uvalde files are based, and I can provide a little insight. I didn't produce any of the contest files directly, but my work in transcoding the FAA data for the entire US has been used in part by the contest organizers.

The issues you are seeing are artifacts of the conversion of the special use airspace data from the text-based raster descriptions published by the FAA in the unlicensed NASR data to the Tim Newport-Peace and OpenAir formats. For Uvalde, only Special Use airspace such as Alerts and MOAs (as opposed to ATC-controlled airspace such as Class B, C, and D) are affected in this way.

The problem arises because the unlicensed digital versions of the FAA data for Alerts and MOAs do not currently contain arc descriptions at all -- just a raster list of some points along the edges. I have written software that does a regression analysis of those points and does a best fit arc through them. This might be a little hard to understand, but (for an arc that isn't a full circle) even though the arc radius and center point may not be perfectly computed, the arc itself can very closely approximate the published position, with only very slight differences in curvature. The parameters of my fitting algorithm are a tolerance of .05 nm, or about 100m. This issue is described in the header of the file. The arc consistency issues you mention originate directly in the FAA's own digital versions of the data. The endpoints of the arcs are not part of the fit.

Normally, MOAs and Alerts aren't used in contest scoring, but I understand in Uvalde they will be. I'm not on the contest committee, but I understand that the organizers have established scoring versions of the airspace files that set the boundaries of the off-limits airspace slightly outside of the boundary as set forth in the FAA data. As long as pilots all use the same description of the airspace as published by the contest committee, things will be OK.

This whole issue of arc fitting will be behind us as early as October, when the FAA will use a new format AIXM5, for publishing unlicensed versions of the airspace data. Of course the contest will be over by then. Other vector-based versions of the FAA data do exist, but they bear license restrictions that prevent their free redistribution.

Lynn Alley
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Old July 20th 12, 07:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Dear Lynn!

Thank you for explaining why it is this way. But the arc regression is not the only problem, but most likely the most important one.

I think that the airspace file for teh WGC dserved a little bit more work. I think that radii should be manually entered from the official FAA orders, which are available for download, for the airspaces which are used for the WGC.

Two technical question. Do you do the arc regression on a sphere or on an ellipsoid? The inconsistencies of the open-air arcs would be easier understood when you do it on a sphere.


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Old July 20th 12, 01:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I do use a sphere. I have code that does it using an ellipsoid, but I found that the match to other FAA sources (such as visual charts and licensed digital data) is not as good. I think the FAA may use a spherical model when producing their own digital representations.

No digital source exists that perfectly matches the FAA orders. For example, the licensed data (such as is available from for-charge services) for MOAs often shows significant differences from the FAA orders. So you're correct that the only way to get a match would be to code it by hand. The orders themselves are not perfectly internally consistent either. One near me specifies radii in both nautical and statue miles, using a conversion factor of 1.1.

L.
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Old July 20th 12, 08:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Thanks for the explanation.

In the data you use to derive the radii and vertices of the arcs, are the arcs approximated by a polygon with significantly more than 2 vertices? If so it might be much better to keep the original polygon approximating the arc, as the the result of air space checks would be nearly independent from the used Earth model, provided that the length of geodesic between the vertices of the polygon is not significantly larger than 12nm.

There are only 45 DB records in the Uvalde airspace file. I think that before the WGC starts it is worthwhile to enter these radii and vertices by hand, so that we can be sure that all competitors and also navigation software and scoring programs will interpret the open-air-format information consistently.

I know we have the 30 day rule, but the current state of inconsistency is not something one would expect for a file used at a WGC.

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Old July 21st 12, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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It appears to me that the scoring files (the ones marked for weekend and weekday use) have already been hand-edited. As I understand it, the file with Corpus Christi in it is informational, not for scoring.

But again, just to be clear... please understand that I'm not affiliated with the contest in any way. The organizers just used my work to build the airspace files. It might be best to send feedback directly to them, rather than in this forum.

Lynn
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Old July 20th 12, 07:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I think that the use of only polygons in airspace files to be used by glider pilots would reduce the chances of wrong interpretation significantly. An arc on a sphere and on a ellipsoid expressed in geodetic coordinates is something quite different. The geodesic on a sphere and on a ellipsoid expressed in geodetic coordinates is for sufficiently short geodesics (20 km) for all practical purposes the same.
 




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