British glider midair

I'll be darned, it's G Dale. Glad you're okay.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18971978

Classic: "Mr Dale said: "I'm really annoyed because I did a lot of
work on that aircraft, and seeing it hanging in the tree is deeply
irritating."

-Evan Ludeman / T8

Interview: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18971978
Mo http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18958136

Damned shame about the gliders, but those can be replaced.

-Evan / T8

On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:01:26 PM UTC-7, Evan Ludeman wrote:
I'll be darned, it's G Dale. Glad you're okay.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18971978

Classic: "Mr Dale said: "I'm really annoyed because I did a lot of
work on that aircraft, and seeing it hanging in the tree is deeply
irritating."

-Evan Ludeman / T8

No mention of Flarms, so I assume none was used, although this obviously happened in a gaggle where Flarm may be less effective. So far this is the 3rd midair I am aware off this year, luckily with no fatalities.

Ramy

On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:14:55 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:01:26 PM UTC-7, Evan Ludeman wrote:
> I'll be darned, it's G Dale. Glad you're okay.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18971978
>
> Classic: "Mr Dale said: "I'm really annoyed because I did a lot of
> work on that aircraft, and seeing it hanging in the tree is deeply
> irritating."
>
> -Evan Ludeman / T8

No mention of Flarms, so I assume none was used, although this obviously happened in a gaggle where Flarm may be less effective. So far this is the 3rd midair I am aware off this year, luckily with no fatalities.

Ramy

There may be two ways to interpret you last comment.

I'd say Flarm may be quite effective (at saving lives) in busy gaggles--its an area where busy pilots can do with the assistance.

Darryl

And if I was religious I'd thank God G made it out OK.

Darryl

On Jul 25, 11:14*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
And if I was religious I'd thank God G made it out OK.

Darryl

Having with at a "flarm mandatory" club for over 4 years, my view is
that flarm is of little use where there are a significant number of
gliders in a gaggle (ie contest/regatta situation) as the alarms are
set of very frequently, but there is not the time to identify whether
the cause is the glider you can see or someone else. All you can
really do is ignore the alarms and keep your head well and truly out
of the cockpit. From the video, the situation at Cambridge appears
show a large number of gliders, reasonably low on a blue day have
found a number of cores which are pretty close together. Flarm is
great out on track to make you aware of traffic in the area.

John

Flarm themselves have made the same point since the
beginning. See their PP presentation from 2005:

http://www.flarm.com/files/basic_presentation_en.ppt


At 22:22 25 July 2012, John Trezise wrote:
On Jul 25, 11:14=A0am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
And if I was religious I'd thank God G made it out OK.

Darryl

Having with at a "flarm mandatory" club for over 4 years,
my view is
that flarm is of little use where there are a significant
number of
gliders in a gaggle (ie contest/regatta situation) as the
alarms are
set of very frequently, but there is not the time to
identify whether
the cause is the glider you can see or someone else. All
you can
really do is ignore the alarms and keep your head well
and truly out
of the cockpit. From the video, the situation at Cambridge
appears
show a large number of gliders, reasonably low on a blue
day have
found a number of cores which are pretty close together.
Flarm is
great out on track to make you aware of traffic in the
area.

John

The new PowerFLARM has a redesigned RF circuit with higher transmit power and a more sensitive receiver.
In addition the RF circuit is duplicated, allowing (but not requiring) the use of two FLARM antennas.
First shipments were to the US (to finally get them going with collision avoidance technology), launch for the rest of the gliding world is in progress (slowly).

On Jul 26, 3:33*am, John Galloway wrote:
Flarm themselves have made the same point since the
beginning. *See their PP presentation from 2005:

http://www.flarm.com/files/basic_presentation_en.ppt

At 22:22 25 July 2012, John Trezise wrote:

On Jul 25, 11:14=A0am, Darryl Ramm *wrote:
And if I was religious I'd thank God G made it out OK.

Darryl

Having with at a "flarm mandatory" club for over 4 years,
my view is
that flarm is of little use where there are a significant
number of
gliders in a gaggle (ie contest/regatta situation) as the
alarms are
set of very frequently, but there is not the time to
identify whether
the cause is the glider you can see or someone else.

John

Slide numbers that seem to relate to gaggling; 12, 17

I might be wrong but I don't see that the FLARM PPT mentions anything
if their device is good, bad or indifferent during gaggling.

Did I miss something?

- John