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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:01:35 -0500, "Kevin Brooks"
wrote: Your message got me to scrounging on my own and I found the NTSB report (20001211X16230 --not easy to find, as the NTSB for some reason labled the aircraft as a Hughes 269, instead of Schweizer 300C, which they use elsewhere in their database). Looks like they dinged my brother for supervisory failures (i.e., failing to sufficiently prepare for "NO TRANSFER OF CONTROL PROCEDURES HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED BEFORE TAKEOFF", but noted the copilot as a cause for "improper" touchdown. Interestingly, they also dinged Larry for failing to take over the aircraft "in a timely manner", but as I recall it he indicated the problem arose rather abruptly as they were approaching touchdown, and when he tried to take over the copilot refused to relinquish control (the report indicates *both* were on the controls at impact). Beyond the data in the report, all I can remember him indicating was that the investigator assured him he nothing to worry about in terms of any regulatory/punitive actions. I was surprised to note that the incident occured only about seven months before he passed away--I had thought it a bit earlier. Yeah, the NTSB database needs some cleaning up. The FAA civil registry database is even worse - they've got many, many examples of the same aircraft type listed under multiple model numbers. And they should stick with the manufacturer's model number versus the sales name, which may not be the same, for example there's no such thing as a Hughes model 500C or 500D or 500E (it's a model 369HS/HC/HM/D/E or 530 variant). OH-6As are model 369A but they have some listed as 500s. Doing civil registry searches I have to look under 12 different model types to dig them all out, when I should have to look at the most four or five. Some of the model numbers have typos in them, so you have to also think of all of the possible errors they could have made. I keep running into N-numbers that should belong to a known model type but when I look them up I find they have been mis-filed. Unless you know the specific N-number of that aircraft you would never find it using a model search. John Hairell |
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