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Old September 23rd 12, 02:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:10:55 PM UTC-4, Steve Koerner wrote:
ClearNav vario works better than 302 and much better than the V7. It's an excellent product -- I hope they are working hard to finish it.


My favorite until recently was the Westerboer VW900. Great for digging out
from low. My new favorite is the CNv. Eagerly awaiting the updates for it.

-- Matt
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Old September 23rd 12, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I love my Zander. How about time constants? The Zander goes
from .5 sec to 5 Seconds, I set mine to 2 seconds. The filter is for
the audio which i set to to 2, in the middle. I wish i could program
the audio to my own sounds though. Don Rickels in sink, Yes, Yes,
Yes in climb...


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Old September 23rd 12, 03:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I love my Zander. How about time constants? The Zander goes
from .5 sec to 5 Seconds, I set mine to 2 seconds. The filter is for
the audio which i set to to 2, in the middle. I wish i could program
the audio to my own sounds though. Don Rickels in sink, Yes, Yes,
Yes in climb...


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Old September 30th 12, 10:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:39:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:10:55 PM UTC-4, Steve Koerner wrote:
My favorite until recently was the Westerboer VW900. Great for digging out
from low. My new favorite is the CNv. Eagerly awaiting the updates for it.

-- Matt


Me too. Did exactly the same thing and think the VW910 was almost as good as my CNv (for vario/netto function). My old stuff is now on sale on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/130775771120

-Jim
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Old October 1st 12, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Can anyone tell me how CN switches from Cruise to Climb with the
software available (assuming no switch installed)?
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Old October 1st 12, 03:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:16:24 PM UTC-4, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
Can anyone tell me how CN switches from Cruise to Climb with the

software available (assuming no switch installed)?


In the case of my vario, it showed up with a switch already wired in. A
software update came along about the same time that enabled automatic
switching at 65kts. Unfortunately you can only do one or the other right
now; I couldn't find a config screen in the vario to change that. The change has to be done using their profile generator program on a PC.

The switch was easy to install in the panel, but
it's a pain to have to fiddle with it whenever you want to start working
a thermal. 65kts is just too fast in my plane for searching for lift
down low (it's about MC 1.5kts for me).

This does seem to be a work in progress however. I'm hoping for a circling
detector at some point.

-- Matt
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Old October 1st 12, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Oct 1, 10:36*am, wrote:

This does seem to be a work in progress however. *I'm hoping for a circling
detector at some point.


Yes, and it's coming, respectively. Probably GPS track based (like
302, which works great).

T8 for ClearNav
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Old October 1st 12, 08:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:47:31 -0700, Evan Ludeman wrote:

On Oct 1, 10:36Â*am, wrote:

This does seem to be a work in progress however. Â*I'm hoping for a
circling detector at some point.


Yes, and it's coming, respectively. Probably GPS track based (like 302,
which works great).

I have an SDI C4 which offers the choice of circling detection (off the
GPS) and speed switching. Circling detection isn't tweakable - it
switched after 90 or 270 degrees depending on (amongst other things) how
tight you turn. Speed switching is highly customisable: you have separate
settings for the speed to switch from cruise-climb and climb-cruise,
which is great as I prefer the climb-cruise to be set a bit higher than
the cruise-climb transition. I prefer speed switching to circle
detection because it allows me to stay in climb mode along a weak street.

The SDI C3 also has a three position switch (up=climb, centre=auto,
down=cruise) which overrides automatic mode selection but this was
deleted from the C4 (actually, the C4 offers a choice of manual, circle
or speed switching but these are all mutually exclusive: it has no
equivalent of the C3's manual override). IMO the C3 setup was better, but
with tuning the C4's speed switching is very good: the vario is in the
appropriate mode 95% of the time.

IME a good move would be to consider using the C3 type setup for the CN:
the ability to adjust the two switching speeds to suit the glider type
and your flying style is an essential feature.

The C3/C4 also operates as a standard TE vario in climb mode and as a
super-netto type in cruise. This also works well for me.

T8 for ClearNav


HTH



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Old October 1st 12, 05:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Years back, I installed a simple toggle switch on top of the stick in my
LS-6. Switch forward meant "Go Fast", switch back meant "Thermal". Easy
and intuitive, no reaching to the panel to switch between cruise and climb
mode.


wrote in message
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On Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:16:24 PM UTC-4, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
Can anyone tell me how CN switches from Cruise to Climb with the

software available (assuming no switch installed)?


In the case of my vario, it showed up with a switch already wired in. A
software update came along about the same time that enabled automatic
switching at 65kts. Unfortunately you can only do one or the other right
now; I couldn't find a config screen in the vario to change that. The
change has to be done using their profile generator program on a PC.

The switch was easy to install in the panel, but
it's a pain to have to fiddle with it whenever you want to start working
a thermal. 65kts is just too fast in my plane for searching for lift
down low (it's about MC 1.5kts for me).

This does seem to be a work in progress however. I'm hoping for a
circling
detector at some point.

-- Matt


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Old October 1st 12, 07:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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On Oct 1, 12:02*pm, "Dan Marotta" wrote:
Years back, I installed a simple toggle switch on top of the stick in my
LS-6. *Switch forward meant "Go Fast", switch back meant "Thermal". *Easy
and intuitive, no reaching to the panel to switch between cruise and climb
mode.

wrote in message

...







On Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:16:24 PM UTC-4, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
Can anyone tell me how CN switches from Cruise to Climb with the


software available (assuming no switch installed)?


In the case of my vario, it showed up with a switch already wired in. *A
software update came along about the same time that enabled automatic
switching at 65kts. *Unfortunately you can only do one or the other right
now; I couldn't find a config screen in the vario to change that. *The
change has to be done using their profile generator program on a PC.


The switch was easy to install in the panel, but
it's a pain to have to fiddle with it whenever you want to start working
a thermal. *65kts is just too fast in my plane for searching for lift
down low (it's about MC 1.5kts for me).


This does seem to be a work in progress however. *I'm hoping for a
circling
detector at some point.


-- Matt


It is the 21st century why would I need switches? CAI 302 does great
switching by itself and it was not designed yesterday. As a consumer I
would expect ClearNav to be at least as good as CAI 302. I hope it
happens. It would be nice to have a release schedule at least with
things like electronic compensation and climb/run switching. I would
consider these to be basic features of a modern variometer. I hope
this happens soon.
 




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