FLARM presentation

On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:04:01 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
Andy you are correct and thank you for correcting the question. Being able to hear an alert before you "eyes on" an alert is most important.



On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:33:41 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:

Isn't your question is incomplete without asking for a comparison of



audio alerting?







GY

If you already have a ClearNav and were going to add a Flarm Brick, do you need a dedicated Flarm display as well on your panel, or does the ClearNav show the needed information just fine by itself? Opinions?

On Oct 15, 4:43*pm, wrote:
On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:04:01 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
Andy you are correct and thank you for correcting the question. Being able to hear an alert before you "eyes on" an alert is most important.

On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:33:41 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:

Isn't *your question is incomplete without asking for a comparison of

audio alerting?

GY

If you already have a ClearNav and were going to add a Flarm Brick, do you need a dedicated Flarm display as well on your panel, or does the ClearNav show the needed information just fine by itself? Opinions?

ClearNav flarm interface is still in development. The latest publicly
available beta is 2.2.0.25 and this has several known issues with
flarm (most apparent in a really high density flarm environment). I
am flying 2.2.0.31alpha and it's much better and quite stable, but
still does not include pcas alerts or the ability to switch flarm into
stealth mode. I'll see about getting a later version posted to the
website. We're not quite ready to say we can replace the dedicated PF
display.

Evan Ludeman on behalf of ClearNav Instruments

On Monday, October 15, 2012 5:53:44 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
On Oct 15, 4:43*pm, wrote:

On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:04:01 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Andy you are correct and thank you for correcting the question. Being able to hear an alert before you "eyes on" an alert is most important.



On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:33:41 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:



Isn't *your question is incomplete without asking for a comparison of



audio alerting?



GY



If you already have a ClearNav and were going to add a Flarm Brick, do you need a dedicated Flarm display as well on your panel, or does the ClearNav show the needed information just fine by itself? Opinions?



ClearNav flarm interface is still in development. The latest publicly

available beta is 2.2.0.25 and this has several known issues with

flarm (most apparent in a really high density flarm environment). I

am flying 2.2.0.31alpha and it's much better and quite stable, but

still does not include pcas alerts or the ability to switch flarm into

stealth mode. I'll see about getting a later version posted to the

website. We're not quite ready to say we can replace the dedicated PF

display.



Evan Ludeman on behalf of ClearNav Instruments

update: Mode C/S & ADSB almost ready for public release. Inclination is to hold off on next public release until all that works.

Evan Ludeman for CNi

On Monday, October 15, 2012 5:53:44 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
On Oct 15, 4:43*pm, wrote:

On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:04:01 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Andy you are correct and thank you for correcting the question. Being able to hear an alert before you "eyes on" an alert is most important.



On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:33:41 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:



Isn't *your question is incomplete without asking for a comparison of



audio alerting?



GY



If you already have a ClearNav and were going to add a Flarm Brick, do you need a dedicated Flarm display as well on your panel, or does the ClearNav show the needed information just fine by itself? Opinions?



ClearNav flarm interface is still in development. The latest publicly

available beta is 2.2.0.25 and this has several known issues with

flarm (most apparent in a really high density flarm environment). I

am flying 2.2.0.31alpha and it's much better and quite stable, but

still does not include pcas alerts or the ability to switch flarm into

stealth mode. I'll see about getting a later version posted to the

website. We're not quite ready to say we can replace the dedicated PF

display.



Evan Ludeman on behalf of ClearNav Instruments

update: Mode C/S & ADSB almost ready for public release. Inclination is to hold off on next release until this is all tested.

Evan Ludeman for CNi

On Monday, October 15, 2012 8:37:04 PM UTC-5, Evan Ludeman wrote:
On Monday, October 15, 2012 5:53:44 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:

On Oct 15, 4:43*pm, wrote:



On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:04:01 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:



Andy you are correct and thank you for correcting the question. Being able to hear an alert before you "eyes on" an alert is most important.







On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:33:41 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:







Isn't *your question is incomplete without asking for a comparison of







audio alerting?







GY







If you already have a ClearNav and were going to add a Flarm Brick, do you need a dedicated Flarm display as well on your panel, or does the ClearNav show the needed information just fine by itself? Opinions?







ClearNav flarm interface is still in development. The latest publicly



available beta is 2.2.0.25 and this has several known issues with



flarm (most apparent in a really high density flarm environment). I



am flying 2.2.0.31alpha and it's much better and quite stable, but



still does not include pcas alerts or the ability to switch flarm into



stealth mode. I'll see about getting a later version posted to the



website. We're not quite ready to say we can replace the dedicated PF



display.







Evan Ludeman on behalf of ClearNav Instruments



update: Mode C/S & ADSB almost ready for public release. Inclination is to hold off on next release until this is all tested.



Evan Ludeman for CNi

Evan:

Just to clarify: the intent of the CN development is that CN will be able to completely substitute for a dedicated flarm display. Is this correct?

Like many others, I'm staring at this pile of flarm stuff in a box, with all its (ha ha) well thought out installation options... and if I could just dispense with the display that would be fantastic. Knowing where the CN development process is going helps a lot. Nothing has to work until spring.

John Cochrane

On Oct 16, 9:58*am, wrote:
On Monday, October 15, 2012 8:37:04 PM UTC-5, Evan Ludeman wrote:
On Monday, October 15, 2012 5:53:44 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:

On Oct 15, 4:43*pm, wrote:

On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:04:01 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Andy you are correct and thank you for correcting the question. Being able to hear an alert before you "eyes on" an alert is most important.

On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:33:41 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:

Isn't *your question is incomplete without asking for a comparison of

audio alerting?

GY

If you already have a ClearNav and were going to add a Flarm Brick, do you need a dedicated Flarm display as well on your panel, or does the ClearNav show the needed information just fine by itself? Opinions?

ClearNav flarm interface is still in development. *The latest publicly

available beta is 2.2.0.25 and this has several known issues with

flarm (most apparent in a really high density flarm environment). *I

am flying 2.2.0.31alpha and it's much better and quite stable, but

still does not include pcas alerts or the ability to switch flarm into

stealth mode. *I'll see about getting a later version posted to the

website. *We're not quite ready to say we can replace the dedicated PF

display.

Evan Ludeman on behalf of ClearNav Instruments

update: *Mode C/S & ADSB almost ready for public release. *Inclination is to hold off on next release until this is all tested.

Evan Ludeman for CNi

Evan:

Just to clarify: the intent of the CN development is that CN will be able to *completely substitute for a dedicated flarm display. Is this correct?

Like many others, I'm staring at this pile of flarm stuff in a box, with all its *(ha ha) well thought out installation options... and if I could just dispense with the display that would be fantastic. Knowing where the CN development process is going helps a lot. Nothing has to work until spring.

John Cochrane

Yes. CN will display all of the information and alerts provided by
powerflarm, with audio, and you can bet that we'll do a better job of
it than these tiny little displays from flarm and butterfly. This is
all nearly finished.

Evan Ludeman on behalf of ClearNav Instruments

On Oct 16, 10:02*am, Evan Ludeman wrote:

Yes. *CN will display all of the information and alerts provided by
powerflarm, with audio, and you can bet that we'll do a better job of
it than these tiny little displays from flarm and butterfly. *This is
all nearly finished.


Don't have CN but curious to know if the volume of the alerting will
be automatically adjusted based on ambient noise level or (less
preferably) airspeed.

In my opinion the 302 would have been much improved by automatic
volume control.

Andy

This is a very good point. Volume of audio warning and alerts.
The 302 has a fatal flaw with regards to the gear warning system. The
volume of the gear warning is tied to the general audio control.
Some people (I am one) turn all the audio system off except the radio
when entering the pattern for a landing. The less distractions the
better. Guess what? That means the gear warning system won't help me
if I need it.
Now I have an independent system who's volume can't be changed by me
when flying.
Guy