SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

Now, now, let's not generalize so much. We've had these sensitive areas,
like reactors and dams, for 11 years now, and this is the first time a
glider pilot has been harassed. This seems to be a very special case,
not "a propensity to police state excesses"; remember, the FAA said it
was fine.


On 10/21/2012 3:16 AM, BruceGreeff wrote:
The land of the free...

Lots of Wide open spaces and tiny closed minds with a propensity to
police state excesses. Sounds like home.
;-)

On 2012/10/19 12:57 AM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Oct 18, 4:22 pm, CindyB wrote:
Perhaps folks have missed digging in to see what's on the Agenda for
the Fall SSA Board of Directors Meeting. In case you need a direct
link, SSA members can use

http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=4462854266 .

If you have an opinion on some of the business items, please contact
your Regional Director to influence their representative duties.
Quickly! Sorry I didn't post this earlier, I leave to travel East soon.

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Cindy Brickner
Region 12 Director

Very interesting especially this:

http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf




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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
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I wuz just winding RAS up Eric...

Someone DID get locked up without good cause or due process. Some
sheriff being over zealous no doubt, but still good for a dig at
officialdom.

On 2012/10/21 7:33 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Now, now, let's not generalize so much. We've had these sensitive areas,
like reactors and dams, for 11 years now, and this is the first time a
glider pilot has been harassed. This seems to be a very special case,
not "a propensity to police state excesses"; remember, the FAA said it
was fine.


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Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771

On 10/22/2012 6:23 AM, BruceGreeff wrote:
I wuz just winding RAS up Eric...

Someone DID get locked up without good cause or due process. Some
sheriff being over zealous no doubt, but still good for a dig at
officialdom.

On 2012/10/21 7:33 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Now, now, let's not generalize so much. We've had these sensitive areas,
like reactors and dams, for 11 years now, and this is the first time a
glider pilot has been harassed. This seems to be a very special case,
not "a propensity to police state excesses"; remember, the FAA said it
was fine.

Again, my point is it's not "officialdom" that appears to be the
problem, but more likely an "official" - one person, perhaps two or
three in one place at that particular time.

What I've noticed over the years is we rarely know all the details, so
it's difficult to asses the blame; for example, maybe these people were
on a super-alert because they'd had recent communications from Homeland
Security about potential terrorist acts; maybe the glider pilot was
belligerent instead of accommodating; and so on. It does no good to trot
out our favorite bogeyman whenever things like this happen, given our
lack of knowledge of the situation.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

On Monday, October 22, 2012 7:56:14 AM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 10/22/2012 6:23 AM, BruceGreeff wrote:

I wuz just winding RAS up Eric...



Someone DID get locked up without good cause or due process. Some

sheriff being over zealous no doubt, but still good for a dig at

officialdom.



On 2012/10/21 7:33 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Now, now, let's not generalize so much. We've had these sensitive areas,

like reactors and dams, for 11 years now, and this is the first time a

glider pilot has been harassed. This seems to be a very special case,

not "a propensity to police state excesses"; remember, the FAA said it

was fine.



Again, my point is it's not "officialdom" that appears to be the

problem, but more likely an "official" - one person, perhaps two or

three in one place at that particular time.



What I've noticed over the years is we rarely know all the details, so

it's difficult to asses the blame; for example, maybe these people were

on a super-alert because they'd had recent communications from Homeland

Security about potential terrorist acts; maybe the glider pilot was

belligerent instead of accommodating; and so on. It does no good to trot

out our favorite bogeyman whenever things like this happen, given our

lack of knowledge of the situation.



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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to

email me)

"Most bad government has grown out of too much government" Thomas Jefferson