~ Bush: "I'm God's Delivery Boy" ~

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Following a Christian philosophy is not evangelization.

And exactly what philosophy is that? I suspect many of the things
(rules of conduct among men/nations) you will claim as christian;
jews, muslims and secular humanists will claim as tenets of their
faith or lack there of.

Wrong, "the free exercise theroef" eliminates any possibility of a "freedom
from" religion.

All hail chief justice John Tarver...supreme arbiter of all things
constitutional.

A pedant could argue it I don't have the right of "freedom from"
religion then you are clearly implying I must observe some religion,
failure to do so would be a violation of your constitutional ruling.

Clearly you are wrong.

Perhaps, but the Governement's expression of religion is part of our
buildings and money everywhere.

Again which religion and which god does my government follow?

Ed posted thusly:
As for the God-fearing attributes of the Framers, they were
politicians of the time and the custom was to express a level of
civility and piety in their public discourse. Many belonged to
Protestant denomination churches, but many were also agnostic or (as
in the case of Thomas Jefferson,) deists--believers in a Supreme Being
without espousal of a particular liturgy. There's little evidence to
link anything in the Constitution to Christianity.

And JT concludes...

Even Ed is peddler of revisionionist PC bull****.

Hmmm, my political science degree is 25 years old, and Ed's remarks
jibe with the books I read and the lectures I heard. So when exactly
did this "revisionism" start?

Notice how we began at Guy's desire to be "left alone", as guaranteed by
Fourth Amendment, to Ed's activist PC proclomation about it being OK to
attack Christianity.

Whoa...I, like Guy would ask you to keep your religious myths to
yourself. Believe what you want, but don't expect any special
treatment because you think christianity is superior to what jews,
muslims, buddhists, hindus, or pagans follow.

Oh yeah, one more thing. When you die...POOF...you're gone, time's up,
no "do overs."

Juvat

"Robey Price" wrote in message
...
After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Following a Christian philosophy is not evangelization.

And exactly what philosophy is that? I suspect many of the things
(rules of conduct among men/nations) you will claim as christian;
jews, muslims and secular humanists will claim as tenets of their
faith or lack there of.

Logos, Pathos and Ethos are a part of the religions I know of.

Wrong, "the free exercise theroef" eliminates any possibility of a
"freedom
from" religion.

All hail chief justice John Tarver...supreme arbiter of all things
constitutional.

An explicit right can not be cancelled through some vague generalized law.

A pedant could argue it I don't have the right of "freedom from"
religion then you are clearly implying I must observe some religion,
failure to do so would be a violation of your constitutional ruling.

Failure to observe any religion leads directly to human psycosis and is
detrimental to society as a whole.

Clearly you are wrong.

Clearly, human nature says I am correct.

Perhaps, but the Governement's expression of religion is part of our
buildings and money everywhere.

Again which religion and which god does my government follow?

The government does not follow any religion.

Ed posted thusly:
As for the God-fearing attributes of the Framers, they were
politicians of the time and the custom was to express a level of
civility and piety in their public discourse. Many belonged to
Protestant denomination churches, but many were also agnostic or (as
in the case of Thomas Jefferson,) deists--believers in a Supreme Being
without espousal of a particular liturgy. There's little evidence to
link anything in the Constitution to Christianity.

And JT concludes...

Even Ed is peddler of revisionionist PC bull****.

Hmmm, my political science degree is 25 years old, and Ed's remarks
jibe with the books I read and the lectures I heard. So when exactly
did this "revisionism" start?

The removal of religion from the public square began in the 1970s.

Notice how we began at Guy's desire to be "left alone", as guaranteed by
Fourth Amendment, to Ed's activist PC proclomation about it being OK to
attack Christianity.

Whoa...I, like Guy would ask you to keep your religious myths to
yourself. Believe what you want, but don't expect any special
treatment because you think christianity is superior to what jews,
muslims, buddhists, hindus, or pagans follow.

As you might learn someday, it is all the same thing.

To call Luciffer by a differnet name does not change the messenger. (angel)
What we can learn is the difference in society where a different cure for
human psycosis is offered. In a society where the Hindi concept of
reincarnation is widely held, Shiva is renewal as opposed to destruction and
death, but still the same character.

Oh yeah, one more thing. When you die...POOF...you're gone, time's up,
no "do overs."

That is a Christian concept, but not a universal religious concept.

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Failure to observe any religion leads directly to human psycosis and is
detrimental to society as a whole.

Well...guys like Feynman, Sagan, Einstein, et al would smile and
suggest that religion might actually be a contributor to that
psycosis.

The removal of religion from the public square began in the 1970s.

Quoi? Please enlighten me...what are you trying to say? Specifics. Not
that I would view such events as bad things, I'd be inclined to chant
"faster and funnier" if that would speed the process you're lamenting.

[note to lurker: faster and funnier is often heard in squadrons when
a briefer is boring the audience and delaying the participation in
Happy Hour].

As you might learn someday, it is all the same thing.

Well they all have equal validity IMO.

To call Luciffer by a differnet name does not change the messenger. (angel)
What we can learn is the difference in society where a different cure for
human psycosis is offered. In a society where the Hindi concept of
reincarnation is widely held, Shiva is renewal as opposed to destruction and
death, but still the same character.

Uhhh, mmmm okay. I guess you're saying that one mythical character
appears in various incarnations as part of diverse religious myths. I
can buy that.

That is a Christian concept, but not a universal religious concept.

Actually I'm paraphrasing the secular humanist view, we'd never call
ourselves christians.

Juvat

"Robey Price" wrote in message
...
After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Failure to observe any religion leads directly to human psycosis and is
detrimental to society as a whole.

Well...guys like Feynman, Sagan, Einstein, et al would smile and
suggest that religion might actually be a contributor to that
psycosis.

Einstein's black box radiation work led directly to the discreditation of
evolution which continues today through DNA. The evolutionist was
confronted with "Jew science" by 1930 demonstrating a vacuum fluctuation
quite nicely. Attempting to use 20th century science to validate 19th
century "dog breeder science" can only demonstrate a paradox when taken to
it's conclusion.

Perhaps this is more along the lines of your line of :
It [charity] encourages the healthier and more normal sections of the world
to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others;
which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of
human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that
are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to
render them to a menacing degree dominant [emphasis added].11
Margaret Sanger
--

"To give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of
segregation [concentration camps] or sterilization", advocated the founder
of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger in April 1932 ("A Plan For Peace")

The removal of religion from the public square began in the 1970s.

Quoi? Please enlighten me...what are you trying to say? Specifics. Not
that I would view such events as bad things, I'd be inclined to chant
"faster and funnier" if that would speed the process you're lamenting.

Archatecture and art that would be completely acceptable in the public
square in the 1960s is not acceptable in the public square today.

[note to lurker: faster and funnier is often heard in squadrons when
a briefer is boring the audience and delaying the participation in
Happy Hour].

Is that the 2 for 1 happy hour, or the regualar kind?

As you might learn someday, it is all the same thing.

Well they all have equal validity IMO.

All who call upon the name of God will be saved.

To call Luciffer by a differnet name does not change the messenger.
(angel)
What we can learn is the difference in society where a different cure for
human psycosis is offered. In a society where the Hindi concept of
reincarnation is widely held, Shiva is renewal as opposed to destruction
and
death, but still the same character.

Uhhh, mmmm okay. I guess you're saying that one mythical character
appears in various incarnations as part of diverse religious myths. I
can buy that.

I find that fascinating bit quite useful in understanding a society.

That is a Christian concept, but not a universal religious concept.

Actually I'm paraphrasing the secular humanist view, we'd never call
ourselves christians.

Is it OK for Phil Miller to marry his pony?

Or is it a moral question.

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Einstein's black box radiation work led directly to the discreditation of
evolution which continues today through DNA.

Seriously? Do a google search and point me to a source, or cite your
source for this claim. I've never read that Einstein disproved
evolution. And what exactly continues today through DNA...discrediting
evolution or evolution?

The evolutionist was confronted with "Jew science" by 1930
demonstrating a vacuum fluctuation...

Umm, which evolutionist are you specifying when you say, "the
evoluntionist?" NASA seems to think the prediction of the vacuum
fluctuation or Zero Energy Point was in 1948. Which really makes me
wonder where it is you're going with whatever it is you're talking
about now...

Attempting to use 20th century science to validate 19th
century "dog breeder science" can only demonstrate a paradox when taken to
it's conclusion.

Nah...Einstein had no problem validating Newton. The more man learns,
the more god-like he becomes.

Perhaps this is more along the lines of your line of :

LOL...too funny, this is getting to be hysterical! JT you're such a
nutty guy.

Archatecture and art that would be completely acceptable in the public
square in the 1960s is not acceptable in the public square today.

Oh yeah, let's go back to the 1960's, "separate but equal." No thanks.
In the 1960s WHITE guys were making all the decisions for women,
minorities, you name it...some god-fearing white guy had the answer.
We've made a great deal of progress since then.

All who call upon the name of God will be saved.

Ah yes, our buds the islamist ****s that hi-jacked those four jets.

I find that fascinating bit quite useful in understanding a society.

Hey everybody thinks their way is THE way, it shouldn't come as a big
surprise that of the 5.8B people on planet earth, ROUGHLY 17% are
christian and the other 83% nod their craniums and mutter, "yeah,
whatever..."

Is it OK for Phil Miller to marry his pony?

Hey if the pony has reached the age of majority, can repeat the vows
and sign the papers, go for it.

Or is it a moral question.

Uhhh...moral IMO, something that can be decided without the benefit of
mythical characters. See that wasn't so hard, no psycosis.

Juvat

"Robey Price" wrote in message
...
After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Einstein's black box radiation work led directly to the discreditation of
evolution which continues today through DNA.

Seriously? Do a google search and point me to a source, or cite your
source for this claim. I've never read that Einstein disproved
evolution. And what exactly continues today through DNA...discrediting
evolution or evolution?

The removal of Neanderthal as an ancestor of man using DNA fact is one way
modern science is discrediting evolution as science.

If you want to understand why "Jew Science" discredits the dog breeder's
religion you would need to read "In Search of Schrodinger's Cat" and "In
Search of Schrodinger's Kittens". It is the same basis upon which Einstein
proclaimed, "God does not play dice".

The evolutionist was confronted with "Jew science" by 1930
demonstrating a vacuum fluctuation...

Umm, which evolutionist are you specifying when you say, "the
evoluntionist?" NASA seems to think the prediction of the vacuum
fluctuation or Zero Energy Point was in 1948. Which really makes me
wonder where it is you're going with whatever it is you're talking
about now...

I think you are trying to get by on bull****.

Attempting to use 20th century science to validate 19th
century "dog breeder science" can only demonstrate a paradox when taken
to
it's conclusion.

Nah...Einstein had no problem validating Newton. The more man learns,
the more god-like he becomes.

Do you know Darwin from Newton?

Perhaps this is more along the lines of your line of :

LOL...too funny, this is getting to be hysterical! JT you're such a
nutty guy.

Archatecture and art that would be completely acceptable in the public
square in the 1960s is not acceptable in the public square today.

Oh yeah, let's go back to the 1960's, "separate but equal." No thanks.
In the 1960s WHITE guys were making all the decisions for women,
minorities, you name it...some god-fearing white guy had the answer.
We've made a great deal of progress since then.

The Constitution didn't change.

All who call upon the name of God will be saved.

Ah yes, our buds the islamist ****s that hi-jacked those four jets.

Quite possibly.

I find that fascinating bit quite useful in understanding a society.

Hey everybody thinks their way is THE way, it shouldn't come as a big
surprise that of the 5.8B people on planet earth, ROUGHLY 17% are
christian and the other 83% nod their craniums and mutter, "yeah,
whatever..."

Here in the US the numbers run a little different than the numbers you made
up.

Is it OK for Phil Miller to marry his pony?

Hey if the pony has reached the age of majority, can repeat the vows
and sign the papers, go for it.

Couldn't Phil just claim the pony agrees?

Or is it a moral question.

Uhhh...moral IMO, something that can be decided without the benefit of
mythical characters. See that wasn't so hard, no psycosis.

Lots of psycosis.

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Einstein's black box radiation work led directly to the discreditation of
evolution which continues today through DNA.

and this as a followup when he was asked to explain how Einstein's
work discredited/disproved evolution...

The removal of Neanderthal as an ancestor of man using DNA fact is one way
modern science is discrediting evolution as science.

OK, you have no response. No Problem.

If you want to understand why "Jew Science" discredits the dog breeder's
religion you would need to read "In Search of Schrodinger's Cat" and "In
Search of Schrodinger's Kittens".

Nah...not interesting to me, I passed on both books.

I think you are trying to get by on bull****.

Hey pot...meet kettle.

Do you know Darwin from Newton?

Never met either guy.

The Constitution didn't change.

True...but society does, and mostly for the better.

Here in the US the numbers run a little different than the numbers you made
up.

Not made up. I guessed 20% of the world is christian, a christian
co-worker told me the number is closer to 17%. The 5.8B population I
got from John Allan Paulos, or Michael Starbird...numbers guys.

Couldn't Phil just claim the pony agrees?

Nope.

Lots of psycosis.

Perhaps mostly in the great state of CA.

In article , "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:

"Robey Price" wrote in message
...
After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Tarver
Engineering" confessed the following:

Failure to observe any religion leads directly to human psycosis and is
detrimental to society as a whole.

Well...guys like Feynman, Sagan, Einstein, et al would smile and
suggest that religion might actually be a contributor to that
psycosis.

Einstein's black box radiation work led directly to the discreditation of
evolution which continues today through DNA. The evolutionist was
confronted with "Jew science" by 1930 demonstrating a vacuum fluctuation
quite nicely. Attempting to use 20th century science to validate 19th
century "dog breeder science" can only demonstrate a paradox when taken to
it's conclusion.

Perhaps this is more along the lines of your line of :
It [charity] encourages the healthier and more normal sections of the world
to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others;
which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of
human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that
are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to
render them to a menacing degree dominant [emphasis added].11
Margaret Sanger


The Marching Morons
C.M. Kornbluth, 1951

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

Robey Price wrote:

snip

Actually I'm paraphrasing the secular humanist view, we'd never call
ourselves christians.

Or, as the televangelists would have it, "Sekoolar Hoomanist," with roughly the
same intonation they use when saying "Spawn of Satan" ;-)

Guy

"Guy Alcala" wrote in message
. ..
Robey Price wrote:

snip

Actually I'm paraphrasing the secular humanist view, we'd never call
ourselves christians.

Or, as the televangelists would have it, "Sekoolar Hoomanist," with
roughly the
same intonation they use when saying "Spawn of Satan" ;-)

All I have done is shown Price the limitations of his 150 year outdated
"science".