FAI (IGC) rules for US Club Class Nationals - Petition

On Tuesday, 20 November 2012 07:42:32 UTC-7, wrote:
The U.S. is moving towards recognizing the Club Class in 2013. A poll has been created to validate interest in establishing FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy in this new class. If approved the U.S. Club Class would be the ONLY U.S. racing class under FAI (IGC) racing rules.



Please sign the petition IF YOU are interested in supporting or flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy.



In the optional personal comment section please enter (if applicable):

1. Your position on the US seeding list.

2. If you have access to or own a Club Class glider, what type.

3. If you are familiar with IGC rules and prefer those rules over US rules.

4. If you would financially or otherwise support development of the US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.

5. If you don't currently fly US contests but would start flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.

6. If you currently fly US contests (Standard, Open, 15m, 18m or Sports) and are interested in flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.

7. Any other comments welcome!



Link to petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/262/8...out-exception/



Sean Franke

US Club Class Team Member

Sean, how are you proposing to score these contests? Are you going to use SeeYou?

Ron Gleason

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:31:05 PM UTC-8, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Tuesday, 20 November 2012 07:42:32 UTC-7, wrote:

The U.S. is moving towards recognizing the Club Class in 2013. A poll has been created to validate interest in establishing FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy in this new class. If approved the U.S. Club Class would be the ONLY U.S. racing class under FAI (IGC) racing rules.







Please sign the petition IF YOU are interested in supporting or flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy.







In the optional personal comment section please enter (if applicable):



1. Your position on the US seeding list.



2. If you have access to or own a Club Class glider, what type.



3. If you are familiar with IGC rules and prefer those rules over US rules.



4. If you would financially or otherwise support development of the US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.



5. If you don't currently fly US contests but would start flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.



6. If you currently fly US contests (Standard, Open, 15m, 18m or Sports) and are interested in flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.



7. Any other comments welcome!







Link to petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/262/8...out-exception/







Sean Franke



US Club Class Team Member



Sean, how are you proposing to score these contests? Are you going to use SeeYou?



Ron Gleason

SeeYou is popular and works well. I propose using SeeYou unless a better solution is brought up.

Sean Franke

Great conversation developing here!

On Tuesday, 27 November 2012 17:38:13 UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:31:05 PM UTC-8, Ron Gleason wrote:

On Tuesday, 20 November 2012 07:42:32 UTC-7, wrote:



The U.S. is moving towards recognizing the Club Class in 2013. A poll has been created to validate interest in establishing FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy in this new class. If approved the U.S. Club Class would be the ONLY U.S. racing class under FAI (IGC) racing rules.















Please sign the petition IF YOU are interested in supporting or flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy.















In the optional personal comment section please enter (if applicable):







1. Your position on the US seeding list.







2. If you have access to or own a Club Class glider, what type.







3. If you are familiar with IGC rules and prefer those rules over US rules.







4. If you would financially or otherwise support development of the US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.







5. If you don't currently fly US contests but would start flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.







6. If you currently fly US contests (Standard, Open, 15m, 18m or Sports) and are interested in flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.







7. Any other comments welcome!















Link to petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/262/8...out-exception/















Sean Franke







US Club Class Team Member







Sean, how are you proposing to score these contests? Are you going to use SeeYou?







Ron Gleason



SeeYou is popular and works well. I propose using SeeYou unless a better solution is brought up.



Sean Franke

Hate to dive deep into details since this is a theoretical discussion but will the SSA have to approve the SeeYou scoring script you will use? Or will you use 'default' SeeYou Competition scoring parameters? Do you have people and/or resources identified that are able to use SeeYou for scoring?

Sorry but devil is in the detail(s).

Ron Gleason

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:17:54 PM UTC-8, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 November 2012 17:38:13 UTC-7, wrote:

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:31:05 PM UTC-8, Ron Gleason wrote:



On Tuesday, 20 November 2012 07:42:32 UTC-7, wrote:







The U.S. is moving towards recognizing the Club Class in 2013. A poll has been created to validate interest in establishing FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy in this new class. If approved the U.S. Club Class would be the ONLY U.S. racing class under FAI (IGC) racing rules.































Please sign the petition IF YOU are interested in supporting or flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy.































In the optional personal comment section please enter (if applicable):















1. Your position on the US seeding list.















2. If you have access to or own a Club Class glider, what type.















3. If you are familiar with IGC rules and prefer those rules over US rules.















4. If you would financially or otherwise support development of the US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.















5. If you don't currently fly US contests but would start flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.















6. If you currently fly US contests (Standard, Open, 15m, 18m or Sports) and are interested in flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.















7. Any other comments welcome!































Link to petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/262/8...out-exception/































Sean Franke















US Club Class Team Member















Sean, how are you proposing to score these contests? Are you going to use SeeYou?















Ron Gleason







SeeYou is popular and works well. I propose using SeeYou unless a better solution is brought up.







Sean Franke



Hate to dive deep into details since this is a theoretical discussion but will the SSA have to approve the SeeYou scoring script you will use? Or will you use 'default' SeeYou Competition scoring parameters? Do you have people and/or resources identified that are able to use SeeYou for scoring?



Sorry but devil is in the detail(s).



Ron Gleason

Do you see any reason the SSA won't approve? Unseen problems?

Sean Franke

On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:25:04 AM UTC-5, wrote:


Do you see any reason the SSA won't approve? Unseen problems?


It's just another issue for a would be organizer to address.

It looks to me as though the 'welcome' mat is out, but until an organizer steps up with a proposal, there's really nothing to approve.

-Evan Ludeman / T8

On Wednesday, 28 November 2012 07:25:04 UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:17:54 PM UTC-8, Ron Gleason wrote:

On Tuesday, 27 November 2012 17:38:13 UTC-7, wrote:



On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:31:05 PM UTC-8, Ron Gleason wrote:







On Tuesday, 20 November 2012 07:42:32 UTC-7, wrote:















The U.S. is moving towards recognizing the Club Class in 2013. A poll has been created to validate interest in establishing FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy in this new class. If approved the U.S. Club Class would be the ONLY U.S. racing class under FAI (IGC) racing rules.































































Please sign the petition IF YOU are interested in supporting or flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules / tasking philosophy.































































In the optional personal comment section please enter (if applicable):































1. Your position on the US seeding list.































2. If you have access to or own a Club Class glider, what type.































3. If you are familiar with IGC rules and prefer those rules over US rules.































4. If you would financially or otherwise support development of the US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.































5. If you don't currently fly US contests but would start flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.































6. If you currently fly US contests (Standard, Open, 15m, 18m or Sports) and are interested in flying US Club Class under FAI (IGC) rules.































7. Any other comments welcome!































































Link to petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/262/8...out-exception/































































Sean Franke































US Club Class Team Member































Sean, how are you proposing to score these contests? Are you going to use SeeYou?































Ron Gleason















SeeYou is popular and works well. I propose using SeeYou unless a better solution is brought up.















Sean Franke







Hate to dive deep into details since this is a theoretical discussion but will the SSA have to approve the SeeYou scoring script you will use? Or will you use 'default' SeeYou Competition scoring parameters? Do you have people and/or resources identified that are able to use SeeYou for scoring?







Sorry but devil is in the detail(s).







Ron Gleason



Do you see any reason the SSA won't approve? Unseen problems?



Sean Franke

Other than the 1-26 class I not sure how the SSA RC has allowed anything other than Winscore in the past. I see no problems using SeeYou Competition, like any scoring program you need experience with it. There are a number of 'administrative' steps that become manual with SeeYou.

Other than the 1-26 class I not sure how the SSA RC has allowed anything other than Winscore in the past. *I see no problems using SeeYou Competition, like any scoring program you need experience with it. *There are a number of 'administrative' steps that become manual with SeeYou.

There is no rules-required official scoring program. Use a slide rule
if you want to. 1-26ers use their own program.

John Cochrane

T

On Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:20:16 UTC-7, John Cochrane wrote:


Other than the 1-26 class I not sure how the SSA RC has allowed anything other than Winscore in the past. *I see no problems using SeeYou Competition, like any scoring program you need experience with it. *There are a number of 'administrative' steps that become manual with SeeYou.



There is no rules-required official scoring program. Use a slide rule

if you want to. 1-26ers use their own program.



John Cochrane
Thanks John, need to find and dust off that slide ruler!

On Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:20:16 PM UTC-5, John Cochrane wrote:

There is no rules-required official scoring program. Use a slide rule

if you want to. 1-26ers use their own program.

There is no rules-required scoring program for US regional contests. National contests mandate Winscore. Other program will be considered for national contests only after successfuly scoring a regional contest.