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Yeap, ask Irakis now...

"Nemo l'ancien" wrote in message
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Yeap, ask Irakis now...


Iraqis have been asked. They agree.

"Nemo l'ancien" wrote

Yeap, ask Irakis now...

or the real French who survived the German penal system.

Ask my buried uncle in Forbach what he thought about the
Americans and Freedom. He'll vote for armed support every
time, rather than the collaborators (like your family).

He'll vote for armed support every time, rather than the collaborators (like
your family).
And we will burn every last drop of your oil and give you reruns of The
Simpsons to ponder and be roll models for your Iraqi children.
It isn't about your country or freedom, its about your oil.

"Rojo2G" wrote

It isn't about your country or freedom, its about your oil.

Whenever the mind snaps shut, there's always the mundane.

The West is awash in oil. Currently it is too cheap, and this
has resulted in waste. Every time you look at your town and
see lights everywhere burning in daylight, you can thank
yourself for the waste.

We need Iraqi oil, like we need another Las Vegas.

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Nemo l'ancien wrote:

Yeap, ask Irakis now...

It's been done several times in the past couple of weeks.

Example from a recent poll commissioned by ABC News and
the BBC by Oxford Research International:

"Overall, how would you say things are going in your life these days -
very good, quite good, quite bad, or very bad?"

71% - Very or quite good.
29% - Quite or very bad.

You didn't happen to miss out on any oil monies, by any chance?

"Nemo l'ancien" wrote in message
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Yeap, ask Irakis now...

OK, here's Ali's take on it as he wrote it at
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
....
"Since we are now talking about your stance, let's take a look at why do you
(the true pacifists) oppose this war.

"I think that most agree that when we talk about the (true pacifists) then
we are pointing to those living in the free world, as the 3rd world people
are either disinterested and busy in trying to feed their children and find
an appropriate shelter for their families, while they struggle to stay as
far as possible away from the tyrannies that control their fate, which may
force them to follow their governments attitude, or they are driven by
religious fanaticism, and in the Arab world probably by Arab nationalism to
stand against this war.

"Peace is what those (true pacifists) are struggling for and there can be no
nobler goal than this, but may I ask one questions here?

"Where do you live!? A stupid and irrelevant question? I don't think so.

"Which peace are you seeking? Yours or that of the world, and which order
you are trying to maintain? That of your countries or of the whole world? Do
you really think that it's such a wonderful and peaceful world that no one
should be allowed to mess with? But what a stupid question is that on my
part!! Of course it is! I mean some of you probably hadn't heard a gun shot
in months or years, and some of you live in countries that haven't fought
any war in more than a century.

"Your lives certainly have not been that easy for sure, but did you ever
fear that your children might starve to death? Or did you live your life
with the horror of a kick that break your doors open, in the middle of the
night, to take you or one of your family members to the unknown? And worse
than that- which seems to you not a big deal- did you have to bend your
heads and fix your eyes to the ground and never raise it fearing it may meet
those of a security guard and get misinterpreted as a challenge!!? Oh my
God! Here I go asking stupid questions again! As of course all of this is
not a big deal, because if you felt it is such a huge injustice and a
humiliation to the sacred soul inside each one of God's creatures, not to
mention human beings, you wouldn't wait SO patiently for the sanctions to
work and for the inspectors to finish their job. Of course it's not a big
deal, and you know why? Simply because it didn't happen to YOU. It happened
to the others who lived so far away that it made it less real for you and
you simply could throw all these behind you when you come to discuss the
war, and ONLY now, you are suddenly worried about how the Americans are
treating us!!? I have one thing to answer that: the Americans don't 'treat'
us; they help, protect, teach, love and make friends with us. Hard to
swallow for you, I know, because it makes you look so bad to yourselves, but
that's not as bad as it seems since we all make mistakes and HUGE ones and
it's never too late to admit that we were wrong.
Am I so stupid and naive to expect you to change your minds? No, because I
still believe that you are good people and I'm relying on this when I say
that I have hope in you and will never look to you as enemies.
....
"I could talk for years, and there are MUCH more painful stories but my
heart cannot take it to remember all this pain. I hope you have a stronger
heart as you explain to those people that you stood against their salvation
and allowed their misery to continue because you think your politicians lied
to you about the reasons for this war. Try to tell them that this was the
doing of America not Saddam and that's why you stood against her when she
tried to remove him and give them freedom AND peace, the peace of mind and
heart!!

Again my stupid question: where do you live? As we, who support this war
against dictatorship and terrorism, live in this world, this ugly world we
are trying to change as persistently as you try to keep it as it is with the
same strength and persistence. So. where do you live?"