P-51's in movie "Empire of the Sun"

To my knowledge there is the merlin engined Bf109 at duxford, and an
originally engined one titled "GUSTAV", it was captured in the desert and
restored later it is the only one with its original daimler benz engine
still in good nick and still powering the aircraft, last i heard of it was
when it was being carted off down under. Its probably back home by now.

G-USTAV is otherwise known as Black 6. It is a genuine Bf 109 G-6. It is
owned by the RAF museum I believe and since they had several other examples
they allowed this one to be rebuilt to flying condition and flown for a few
years. On its last flight before being grounded for museum display the
aircraft was crashed and heavily damaged. It has since been rebuilt for static
display. I don't believe that it was ever shipped Down Under.

There have been two or three Spanish built Buchons rebuilt with Daimler
engines and flown in Germany. Most have been ground looped and damaged and
then retired after being rebuilt. I believe that there are not now any
original German built Bf 109s flying though several capable of flight and
several more being restored.

John Dupre'

Thanks for that, i didnt know it had crashed, it did have a tendency to be a
beast to taxi and take off, because the u/c was toed in, and at such an
angle (i.e. the oleo legs not straight down like the spitfire or the hurri'
and others), but it was deadly in the hands of an ace!
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To my knowledge there is the merlin engined Bf109 at duxford, and an
originally engined one titled "GUSTAV", it was captured in the desert and
restored later it is the only one with its original daimler benz engine
still in good nick and still powering the aircraft, last i heard of it
was
when it was being carted off down under. Its probably back home by now.

G-USTAV is otherwise known as Black 6. It is a genuine Bf 109 G-6. It is
owned by the RAF museum I believe and since they had several other
examples
they allowed this one to be rebuilt to flying condition and flown for a
few
years. On its last flight before being grounded for museum display the
aircraft was crashed and heavily damaged. It has since been rebuilt for
static
display. I don't believe that it was ever shipped Down Under.

There have been two or three Spanish built Buchons rebuilt with Daimler
engines and flown in Germany. Most have been ground looped and damaged
and
then retired after being rebuilt. I believe that there are not now any
original German built Bf 109s flying though several capable of flight and
several more being restored.

John Dupre'

The talk of the flyable 'real' 109s & Hispanos has me wondering. Are
there now or were there, 'recently', (30-or so years) not counting
Israel's postwar use, any flyable Czech Avia S99s, the 109s with the
Junkers Jumo? I've read they were they nastiest of 109 variations.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:15:14 -0600 (CST), wrote:

The talk of the flyable 'real' 109s & Hispanos has me wondering. Are
there now or were there, 'recently', (30-or so years) not counting
Israel's postwar use, any flyable Czech Avia S99s, the 109s with the
Junkers Jumo? I've read they were they nastiest of 109 variations.

Weren't those the S.199s, rather? The S.99s being the Czech-built
Bf 109G-10s... (and the CS.99s, the Bf 109G-12s).

There used to be a very detailed page on the different Czech variants,
but it disappeared a few years ago. I think it was at
http://willowood.multimania.com/home.html (The Mule Index Home).

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The talk of the flyable 'real' 109s & Hispanos has me wondering. Are
there now or were there, 'recently', (30-or so years) not counting
Israel's postwar use, any flyable Czech Avia S99s, the 109s with the
Junkers Jumo? I've read they were they nastiest of 109 variations.


Israel had one aircraft aboard a transport that got siezed in 1948 in Cyprus or
Rhodes and wasn't released until about 1950. By then they had given up on the
few remaining ones they had. I am not sure if they flew this last one or not.

The Czechs started to get Soviet equipment in the late 1940's so I doubt they
had any flying for long after that.

If one could be had it would make a very cool warbird but it would take an even
cooler pilot to fly it.

John Dupre'