Is the 787 a failure ?

Boeing blows smoke:
| ...
| We now have hundreds of people at Boeing, some of our best
| and brightest, dedicated exclusively to solving this issue.
| In addition, we've tapped into the pool of Technical
| Fellows at Boeing, which offers deep knowledge across
| diverse technical areas. These individuals achieve this
| coveted designation after demonstrating expertise
| recognized by leaders in Boeing, as well as across the
| industry.
|
| We've also reached out to a handful of retired experts.
| Seven retired executives and technology leaders make up our
| Senior Advisory Group, which provides valuable
| experience-based perspective and counsel to teams designing
| and manufacturing. Together they have more than 230 years
| of collective Boeing experience and have been awarded a
| total of 46 industry awards and accolades.
| ...
http://boeingblogs.com/randy/archives/2013/02/when_the_going_gets_tough_boei.html

Seven retired executives? They must be joking.

--bks

On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:28:56 +0000 (UTC), (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

Boeing blows smoke:
| ...
| We now have hundreds of people at Boeing, some of our best
| and brightest, dedicated exclusively to solving this issue.
| In addition, we've tapped into the pool of Technical
| Fellows at Boeing, which offers deep knowledge across
| diverse technical areas. These individuals achieve this
| coveted designation after demonstrating expertise
| recognized by leaders in Boeing, as well as across the
| industry.
|
| We've also reached out to a handful of retired experts.
| Seven retired executives and technology leaders make up our
| Senior Advisory Group, which provides valuable
| experience-based perspective and counsel to teams designing
| and manufacturing. Together they have more than 230 years
| of collective Boeing experience and have been awarded a
| total of 46 industry awards and accolades.
| ...
http://boeingblogs.com/randy/archives/2013/02/when_the_going_gets_tough_boei.html

Seven retired executives? They must be joking.

--bks
Your reading comprehension not too good, or your attention span
REALLY short. You forgot the "and technology leaders"

wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:28:56 +0000 (UTC), (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| ...
| We've also reached out to a handful of retired experts.
| Seven retired executives and technology leaders make up our
| Senior Advisory Group, which provides valuable
| ...
http://boeingblogs.com/randy/archives/2013/02/when_the_going_gets_tough_boei.html

Seven retired executives? They must be joking.

Your reading comprehension not too good, or your attention span
REALLY short. You forgot the "and technology leaders"

Is Boeing short of executives and "technology leaders"?
They're paying CEO McNerney $22,000,000/year. At that
price he should be able to figure out what's wrong with
the battery all by himself.

--bks

McNerney gets paid $400,000 per week for this? Yow!
| ...
| In 2008, as problems and delays continued to mount for the
| Dreamliner, Mr. McNerney toured several of Boeing's key
| suppliers. At one plant, which made part of the fuselage,
| he asked managers what was keeping their production line
| from moving. They told him they were waiting on a part that
| Boeing itself made. Mr. McNerney expressed surprise,
| according to someone present at the meeting.
|
| Mr. McNerney has conceded that Boeing went too far in
| spreading out the 787's supply chain. "We got a little bit
| seduced that it would all come together seamlessly and the
| same design rules would be applied everywhere in the world
| and corners wouldn't be cut and financial realities
| wouldn't hit certain folks," Mr. McNerney told an audience
| at an event in September.
|
| To hasten completion of the complicated new aircraft, the
| CEO aggressively replaced key managers.
| ...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324039504578260164279497602.html

--bks

The integrated approach isn't working, so they
bring in new people who aren't integrated and
probably don't work together?

I'm not optomistic.

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"Bradley K. Sherman" wrote in message
...
McNerney gets paid $400,000 per week for this? Yow!
| ...
| In 2008, as problems and delays continued to mount for the
| Dreamliner, Mr. McNerney toured several of Boeing's key
| suppliers. At one plant, which made part of the fuselage,
| he asked managers what was keeping their production line
| from moving. They told him they were waiting on a part that
| Boeing itself made. Mr. McNerney expressed surprise,
| according to someone present at the meeting.
|
| Mr. McNerney has conceded that Boeing went too far in
| spreading out the 787's supply chain. "We got a little bit
| seduced that it would all come together seamlessly and the
| same design rules would be applied everywhere in the world
| and corners wouldn't be cut and financial realities
| wouldn't hit certain folks," Mr. McNerney told an audience
| at an event in September.
|
| To hasten completion of the complicated new aircraft, the
| CEO aggressively replaced key managers.
| ...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324039504578260164279497602.html

--bks

On 2/2/2013 6:46 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
The integrated approach isn't working, so they
bring in new people who aren't integrated and
probably don't work together?

Yep, that group might not help at all. On the other hand, it's hard to
imagine how getting fresh minds with fresh ideas working on a tough
problem like this can be a bad thing. Compared to the cost of the
problem, the cost of this team is miniscule.

(Trollish crossposts to unrelated groups snipped)