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  #41  
Old March 13th 13, 03:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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I don't understand.

I haven't knowingly added, deleted, or even used turnpoints on my 302. I
uploaded a turnpoint file to my Dell Streak 5 (United States.cup) and I have
access to all turnpoints in the US.

The Streak won't support the entire US terrain map, at least won't load it
in a reasonable time, so I have several maps which I created from XCSoar.org
which cover the regions where I fly. I can even change maps in flight if I
go that far...


"Evan Ludeman" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:47:04 AM UTC-4, Max Kellermann wrote:
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:46:48 AM UTC+1, Bernie wrote:

How can you consider a bug that prevents us from uploading Cambridge
format turnpoint files to a Cambridge 302 not to be serious? It is VERY
serious to 302 owners!




Would you please explain why this is serious, or even a bug?



Yes, it may be uncomfortable that only CUP files can be selected at this
one specific dialog, and we will extend it to allow all the other file
formats that XCSoar understands. It's just that nobody got around to do
it, because we had other requests that seemed more urgent.



My point is:



- you CAN upload waypoints to the CAI302 with XCSoar


So you fixed the transfer of waypoints to 302 using .cup files? If so, I
agree that's an acceptable solution. As stated on that original ticket I
tried this and it simply erased all the waypoints in the 302.

T8

  #42  
Old March 13th 13, 03:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Evan Ludeman[_4_]
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:41:47 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
I don't understand.


That's because you don't use a Cambridge 303 display with your 302.

Even with XCSoar, I used the 303 routinely. Even with ClearNav, I still use the 303 routinely. It's reliable, it's backup, it's very easy to read. One advantage of the 303 versus any full on glide computer: there is very little to get wrong. Provided that your database is correct, there is really no (easy :-)) way to screw up a final glide calculation.

T8

  #43  
Old March 13th 13, 08:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bernie[_4_]
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:47:04 PM UTC+11, Max Kellermann wrote:

Yes, it may be uncomfortable that only CUP files can be selected at this one specific dialog, and we will extend it to allow all the other file formats that XCSoar understands. It's just that nobody got around to do it, because we had other requests that seemed more urgent.

My point is:

- you CAN upload waypoints to the CAI302 with XCSoar


Hi Max,
I must apologise, as I had clean forgotten that XCSoar could upload .cup files, which the 302 will gladly accept. So the ticket should be an enhancement request rather than a bug report, and you are correct.

Re #1603 'sticky zoom' or 'independent map scale'; thank you! That is something that I and my friends have long waited for and I very much appreciate you adding this overnight, fantastic work. XSoar just got better, and I already loved it!
Regards, Bernie.
  #44  
Old March 13th 13, 09:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bernie[_4_]
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PS: For 302 owners: I just remembered that the trick is to reboot the 302 manually after uploading the .cup files from XCSoar to the 302.
See ticket #2380 where I describe what Evan experienced (ie, 302 says no TP's loaded) until the 302 is rebooted.

http://bugs.xcsoar.org/ticket/2380


Hi Max,

I must apologise, as I had clean forgotten that XCSoar could upload .cup files, which the 302 will gladly accept. So the ticket should be an enhancement request rather than a bug report, and you are correct.



Re #1603 'sticky zoom' or 'independent map scale'; thank you! That is something that I and my friends have long waited for and I very much appreciate you adding this overnight, fantastic work. XSoar just got better, and I already loved it!

Regards, Bernie.


  #45  
Old March 13th 13, 11:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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You are correct - I don't have a 303, though that's what I suspected was
meant in the original post about uploading turnpoints.

I have a couple of friends whose gliders have LNAV/GPS-NAV and a 303
installed. They each bought Streaks and are wondering how they can
interface the streak to the system. Or they stuck with using the Streak as
a stand-alone device?


"Evan Ludeman" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:41:47 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
I don't understand.


That's because you don't use a Cambridge 303 display with your 302.

Even with XCSoar, I used the 303 routinely. Even with ClearNav, I still use
the 303 routinely. It's reliable, it's backup, it's very easy to read. One
advantage of the 303 versus any full on glide computer: there is very little
to get wrong. Provided that your database is correct, there is really no
(easy :-)) way to screw up a final glide calculation.

T8

  #46  
Old March 14th 13, 12:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Max Kellermann[_2_]
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:51:57 PM UTC+1, Bernie wrote:
Re #1603 'sticky zoom' or 'independent map scale'; thank you! That is something that I and my friends have long waited for and I very much appreciate you adding this overnight, fantastic work. XSoar just got better, and I already loved it!


I just uploaded XCSoar 6.6_preview1 with that feature to Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...xcsoar.testing

(Should be visible in an hour or so)
  #47  
Old March 14th 13, 02:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bernie[_4_]
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On Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:37:14 AM UTC+11, Max Kellermann wrote:
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:51:57 PM UTC+1, Bernie wrote:

Re #1603 'sticky zoom' or 'independent map scale'; thank you! That is something that I and my friends have long waited for and I very much appreciate you adding this overnight, fantastic work. XSoar just got better, and I already loved it!




I just uploaded XCSoar 6.6_preview1 with that feature to Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...xcsoar.testing



(Should be visible in an hour or so)


Works brilliantly! Thanks again.
  #48  
Old March 25th 13, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
MNLou
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On Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:11:53 PM UTC-6, MNLou wrote:
I am about to make my first foray into the world of soaring software.



I will, most likely, be using a Naviter Oudie Lite hooked up to a Cambridge 302. My focus will be cross country flight (versus contest flying) for the foreseeable future.



I have read reviews and comments about both XCSoar and LK8000. They both appear to be fine products with excellent functionality.



I would be interested in your comments on ease of use (both on the ground and in the air), learning curve / ease of set up, and if one is better suited for cross country flying.



Thanks in advance for your help!


I apologize for posting to this thread at this late date. I have been off-line for over 2 weeks dealing with a death in the family.

The developers of both products have every right to be proud of their accomplishments.

I want to thank everyone who posted. I learned a lot from the information posted and by following the conversations.
  #49  
Old March 26th 13, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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On Mar 13, 8:37*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:51:57 PM UTC+1, Bernie wrote:
Re #1603 'sticky zoom' or 'independent map scale'; thank you! That is something that I and my friends have long waited for and I very much appreciate you adding this overnight, fantastic work. XSoar just got better, and I already loved it!


I just uploaded XCSoar 6.6_preview1 with that feature to Google Play:https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...xcsoar.testing

(Should be visible in an hour or so)


Max, if you guys could implement PowerFlarm Mod S/Mod C traffic that
would be awesome.

Please look at this page under "Non directional Warning Screen:"

http://www.gliderpilot.org/PowerFlarmDisplays

Please look into this. I saw some exchanges on XCSoar forum on this
subject but the thread died. Thank you in advance.

Andrzej
  #50  
Old March 26th 13, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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On Mar 25, 10:12*pm, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:37*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:51:57 PM UTC+1, Bernie wrote:
Re #1603 'sticky zoom' or 'independent map scale'; thank you! That is something that I and my friends have long waited for and I very much appreciate you adding this overnight, fantastic work. XSoar just got better, and I already loved it!


I just uploaded XCSoar 6.6_preview1 with that feature to Google Play:https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...xcsoar.testing


(Should be visible in an hour or so)


Max, if you guys could implement PowerFlarm Mod S/Mod C traffic that
would be awesome.

Please look at this page under "Non directional Warning Screen:"

http://www.gliderpilot.org/PowerFlarmDisplays

Please look into this. I saw some exchanges on XCSoar forum on this
subject but the thread died. Thank you in advance.

Andrzej


By the way I am asking for it here as there is a ticket for it already
but priority was moved to LOW. Having this feature implemented would
allow many of us to get rid of extra displays polluting our cockpits.
To me this is more important than many other features. I guess there
are many others who think this way.
 




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