IDF-Apache firing missiles on 67yr old civilian in wheelchair- at Sabra mosque in Gaza...

They lost their freedom, their country is occupied, most of them are
living in refuge camps in pore condition,

... because 50 years ago they backed the wrong side in an insane attempt
to drive the Israelis into the sea. And, every time they've been given the
chance, they've backed that losing side again.

And, they've lost a little more each time.

You'd think by now they'd have figured out what they're doing wrong.


They do not seem to have much of a problem with Jordan occupying "Palestine"


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

"Nicky" wrote in message
...
So you won't to say that for middle-class Palestinians their country is
not
occupied and they are not living under Israeli repression?

Parsing this abuse of the English language, I can get that you think the
Palestinians had a "country". You might want to check your history. You
might want to look at the plight of Arabs who live in Israel and who have
not sworn to kill al of the Jews. They have greater freedom to practice
their religion in the way they choose, greater security, political freedom,
and in virtually every manner a better life with more freedom than those in
any Arab state or that the Palestinians would have had if Israel had never
existed.

Leonard

"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:nQL9c.3721$pM1.2387@lakeread06...

"Nicky" wrote in message
...
So you won't to say that for middle-class Palestinians their country is
not
occupied and they are not living under Israeli repression?

Parsing this abuse of the English language, I can get that you think the
Palestinians had a "country". You might want to check your history. You
might want to look at the plight of Arabs who live in Israel and who have
not sworn to kill al of the Jews. They have greater freedom to practice
their religion in the way they choose, greater security, political
freedom,
and in virtually every manner a better life with more freedom than those
in
any Arab state or that the Palestinians would have had if Israel had never
existed.

Can they marry someone from the West Bank and not have problems with the
Israeli Government?

"Nicky" wrote in
:




They lost their freedom, their country is occupied,

Since when is it "their" country? ISTR that the Jews lived there many
years,perhaps centuries before the Arabs moved in. The AL-Aqsa mosque is
built on Jewish Temple remains.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

"Nicky" wrote in
:

"Chad Irby" wrote :

It's funny how you say "little convincing" when they have to send
their walking bombs through a fairly intense brainwashing session,
then pay the families of those bombers a large reward for having
their sons and daughters blow themselves up.

Desperate people are doing desperate things against those who put them
in such misery. Those people had lost everything

They fled the new state of Israel because the Arabs told them to,that the
Israelis would be "driven into the sea".Yet,Israel accepted the Arab
population,and actually has them represented in their government,something
you will NOT find in any Arab country. The Palestinians even tried to take
over Jordan(and Lebanon?) This whole problem was created and maintained by
the Arabs.No Arab country has or will accept Palestinians as citizens.







--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Does anyone seriously believe that if the state of Israel was destroyed
the Palestinians would not be in a savage civil war within a very short
time?

The only factor preventing that is the existence of a common enemy; and
even given that, the alliances are still very fragile.

Dave

In us.military.army Dave Holford wrote:
Does anyone seriously believe that if the state of Israel was destroyed
the Palestinians would not be in a savage civil war within a very short
time?

This does not justify the occupation.


--
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"We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by
procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any
employment in our own country expropriation and the removal of the poor
must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly"

- Theodore Herzl, Ideological father of Israel,
(The Complete Diaries of Theodore Herzl, Vol I, 1895)

.................................................. ............................
http://www.memeticcandiru.com

wrote in message
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In us.military.army Dave Holford
wrote:
Does anyone seriously believe that if the state of Israel was destroyed
the Palestinians would not be in a savage civil war within a very short
time?

This does not justify the occupation.

Of Spain?

"Tarver Engineering" posted
in us.military.army on Fri, 26 Mar
2004 11:01:26 -0800:


wrote in message
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In us.military.army Dave Holford
wrote:
Does anyone seriously believe that if the state of Israel was destroyed
the Palestinians would not be in a savage civil war within a very short
time?

This does not justify the occupation.

Of Spain?


Rains mainly on the plain.


--
K. A. Cannon
kcannon at insurgent dot org
(change the orgy to org to reply)

mhm33x1

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process
he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss,
the abyss also looks into you"
- Nietzsche, From Beyond Good and Evil, (1886)


"The person who stands up and says, 'This is stupid,' either is asked to
`behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful 'Yes, we know! Isn't it
terrific!'" - Frank Zappa

Tom/Mark in alt.test sez:
"People like you are pure scum, K.A. Cannon."

"K. A. Cannon" wrote in message
...
"Tarver Engineering" posted
in us.military.army on Fri, 26 Mar
2004 11:01:26 -0800:


wrote in message
news:H3%8c.9456$wg1.5332@edtnps84...
In us.military.army Dave Holford
wrote:
Does anyone seriously believe that if the state of Israel was
destroyed
the Palestinians would not be in a savage civil war within a very
short
time?

This does not justify the occupation.

Of Spain?


Rains mainly on the plain.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/ladin.htm