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March 20th 13, 08:42 PM
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We don't need no steenkeeng one-man rig
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:01 -0700 (PDT), Bill D
wrote: [snip] That P-47 wing had a self-sealing fuel tank, 4, .50 cal gun mounts with ammunition trays and numerous hard points for bombs and rockets. It also had a main gear leg to support all that weight. The fuselage had pilot armor and heavy vacuum tube avionics. "Civilianized" WWII fighters often weighed a ton less than the GI versions after they were stripped of the mil-stuff. About 10,000 lb empty, 17,000+ MGTOW. Actually the guns, which accounted for about 350 lb per wing, wouldn't have been installed until after assembly. I was surprised to see so few men lifting the propeller. Those had steel blades with silver solder contouring the airfoil. They were seriously heavy. About 400 lb, IIRC. 
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March 20th 13, 10:12 PM
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We don't need no steenkeeng one-man rig
On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:42:18 PM UTC-6, Ralph Jones wrote:
Actually the guns, which accounted for about 350 lb per wing, wouldn't have been installed until after assembly. Yep. I tried to say just the mounting hardware not the guns themselves but I wasn't clear. The gun mounting hardware is heavy. I found a reference saying each P-47 blade weighed 110 Lbs so maybe 500 lbs including the hub. That's still a lot for those guys to be lifting as high as they did. Greatest generation indeed.
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