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Eric Greenwell wrote: small fuel cell. I've wondered if a gas-electric hybrid would be practical. A gas motor powerful enough to supply half the energy of a 2000' climb at 500 fpm would be about 20 hp, a fair sized motor. So again, maybe the solution is a big enough Li battery to do the whole 2000', then use 4 hp motor to recharge the battery over the next 30 minutes or so. Apparently there was a gas-electric hybrid glider at the AERO Friedrichshafen show, or at least a poster about one. SoaringCafe has pictures from the show. One pic is of a diagram of an Albastar 18m glider with internal gasoline engine driving a generator linked to a FES. |
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Real men (and women) fly pure sailplanes. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. Just kidding! "Wallace Berry" wrote in message ... In article , Eric Greenwell wrote: small fuel cell. I've wondered if a gas-electric hybrid would be practical. A gas motor powerful enough to supply half the energy of a 2000' climb at 500 fpm would be about 20 hp, a fair sized motor. So again, maybe the solution is a big enough Li battery to do the whole 2000', then use 4 hp motor to recharge the battery over the next 30 minutes or so. Apparently there was a gas-electric hybrid glider at the AERO Friedrichshafen show, or at least a poster about one. SoaringCafe has pictures from the show. One pic is of a diagram of an Albastar 18m glider with internal gasoline engine driving a generator linked to a FES. |
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Wallace Berry wrote, On 5/15/2013 6:18 AM:
In article , Eric Greenwell wrote: small fuel cell. I've wondered if a gas-electric hybrid would be practical. A gas motor powerful enough to supply half the energy of a 2000' climb at 500 fpm would be about 20 hp, a fair sized motor. So again, maybe the solution is a big enough Li battery to do the whole 2000', then use 4 hp motor to recharge the battery over the next 30 minutes or so. Apparently there was a gas-electric hybrid glider at the AERO Friedrichshafen show, or at least a poster about one. SoaringCafe has pictures from the show. One pic is of a diagram of an Albastar 18m glider with internal gasoline engine driving a generator linked to a FES. I like the idea of starting the motor before you have to commit to using it. There is a glider with an enclosed, internal gasoline engine - the Stemme - but it can't be started independently of propeller operation, and the drive shaft is a difficult technical problem requiring the side by side seating. The Albastar has a substantial engine of 65 hp, and the use of using a generator/electric motor for power transmission to the propeller gives it a lot of flexibility in design the Stemme did not have. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl |
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On Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:41:44 AM UTC+9:30, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Wallace Berry wrote, On 5/15/2013 6:18 AM: In article , Eric Greenwell wrote: small fuel cell. I've wondered if a gas-electric hybrid would be practical. A gas motor powerful enough to supply half the energy of a 2000' climb at 500 fpm would be about 20 hp, a fair sized motor. So again, maybe the solution is a big enough Li battery to do the whole 2000', then use 4 hp motor to recharge the battery over the next 30 minutes or so. Apparently there was a gas-electric hybrid glider at the AERO Friedrichshafen show, or at least a poster about one. SoaringCafe has pictures from the show. One pic is of a diagram of an Albastar 18m glider with internal gasoline engine driving a generator linked to a FES. I like the idea of starting the motor before you have to commit to using it. There is a glider with an enclosed, internal gasoline engine - the Stemme - but it can't be started independently of propeller operation, and the drive shaft is a difficult technical problem requiring the side by side seating. The Albastar has a substantial engine of 65 hp, and the use of using a generator/electric motor for power transmission to the propeller gives it a lot of flexibility in design the Stemme did not have. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl The original LS8-t did just that - engine could be started before the prop extended. |
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plantain wrote, On 5/16/2013 1:52 PM:
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:41:44 AM UTC+9:30, Eric Greenwell wrote: I like the idea of starting the motor before you have to commit to using it. There is a glider with an enclosed, internal gasoline engine - the Stemme - but it can't be started independently of propeller operation, and the drive shaft is a difficult technical problem requiring the side by side seating. The Albastar has a substantial engine of 65 hp, and the use of using a generator/electric motor for power transmission to the propeller gives it a lot of flexibility in design the Stemme did not have. The original LS8-t did just that - engine could be started before the prop extended. How did the exhaust get out of the glider? Was the engine fixed in place, and only the propeller and mast went up? -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl |
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