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Old May 27th 13, 05:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Galloway[_1_]
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At 15:06 27 May 2013, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:37:32 AM UTC-4, Bill D wrote:
On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:23:07 AM UTC-6, John

Galloway wrote:

Surely this device should be a complete non-starter in a

glider



cockpit as it give a fixed blind spot in the right lateral

visual



field.








Nope, It's a "see-through" display.


The solid bar that supports the 'see through display' blocks

some
peripheral vision.

I don't think that this will stop everyone from using it because

some
people already fly with big vision blocking hat brims. A hat

brim would
probably help keep the screen from "washing out" in direct

sunlight.

Unlike a hat brim the obstruction from the support bar is directly
at pupil level and the closeness to the eye means that even a
narrow obstruction will subtend an angle large enough to cause
a significant lateral blind spot. Most gliders on a collision
course are most likely to be level with oneself. This is a crazy
idea and to allow pilots to use it would be similar to allowing
flying with visual field defects.

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Old May 27th 13, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
son_of_flubber
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:10:54 PM UTC-4, John Galloway wrote:

Unlike a hat brim the obstruction from the support bar is directly

at pupil level and the closeness to the eye means that even a

narrow obstruction will subtend an angle large enough to cause

a significant lateral blind spot. Most gliders on a collision

course are most likely to be level with oneself.


Excellent point.

This is a crazy

idea and to allow pilots to use it would be similar to allowing

flying with visual field defects.


M



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Old May 27th 13, 05:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:25:59 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:10:54 PM UTC-4, John Galloway wrote:


This is a crazy
idea and to allow pilots to use it would be similar to allowing
flying with visual field defects.


My point is that it is hard to stop pilots from doing stupid things, like wearing an excessive hat brim (or wearing Google glass).

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Old May 27th 13, 05:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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....And just think - with the optimum soaring path now displayed to the
pilot, you can guarantee yourself a World Championship, simply by buying the
best sailplane. Who needs talent any more when you have the money?

I think I'll apply for a government grant!


"son_of_flubber" wrote in message
...

Checklists would also be interesting. Imagine: Glass: Checklist landing

* Wind? Check

* Approach Speed? Check

* Clear Runway? Check



I would use a smart phone app today that allowed me to customize a set of
checklists and interact with them through voice and synthesized speech.
This would be a win because it could eliminate visually distracting
checklists. I know that a lot of pilots follow checklists "from memory" but
many feel that a checklist should be "written down" to compensate for memory
errors. An app like this would increase my use of checklists when my hands
and eyes were busy.

I'd like to see an AI co-pilot that would have awareness of flight
parameters, be able to do simple rule based reasoning and pattern
recognition, and give verbal suggestions to the pilot. Kinda like having a
CFI in the backseat. For example an AI co-pilot might be able to recognize
wind shear, detect that the glider was in the pattern, and give the pilot a
heads up "Possible Wind Shear".

It would be interesting to have a AI watch my flying, detect that I was
having a bad day and flying poorly and tell me to land ASAP.

I think I would keep my Google Glass display to a minimum and display only
airspeed, altitude, vario and perhaps pattern arrival altitude. AI co-pilot
would have some override privilege, so that if I were approaching stall
speed it would display only airspeed, large and in red. I'd like the App to
let the user customize the AI rules so that the AI would behave to the taste
and experience of the pilot. I'd rather see these parameters projected on
the canopy, the Google Glass blocks part of my vision of one eye and that is
a drawback.

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Old May 27th 13, 06:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Galloway[_1_]
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At 16:30 27 May 2013, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:25:59 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber

wrote:
On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:10:54 PM UTC-4, John Galloway

wrote:

This is a crazy
idea and to allow pilots to use it would be similar to

allowing
flying with visual field defects.


My point is that it is hard to stop pilots from doing stupid things,

like
wearing an excessive hat brim (or wearing Google glass).


Peer pressure means that you never see glider pilots wearing
baseball caps in the UK for exactly this reason.

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Old May 28th 13, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:26:10 PM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
This is funny, but it gives a good idea of the Google Glass point of view.



http://mashable.com/2013/05/25/googl...-photographer/



Will we all want to be wearing these in the cockpit three years from now?



Not shown is the ability to interact through voice commands and receive information via a synthetic voice. That seems to have potential above the sunlight readable display angle.



Anyone working on an XCSoar port to Google Glass?


Wrong platform. It will be these. http://www.reconinstruments.com/
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Old May 28th 13, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Unlike a hat brim the obstruction from the support bar is directly

at pupil level and the closeness to the eye means that even a

narrow obstruction will subtend an angle large enough to cause

a significant lateral blind spot. Most gliders on a collision

course are most likely to be level with oneself. This is a crazy

idea and to allow pilots to use it would be similar to allowing

flying with visual field defects.



I have not played with Google Glass and I understand the mount may restrict vision. However, AH-64 and F-35 pilot fly with helmet mounted HUDs, so there must be some way to mount this technology that doesn't restrict vision.

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals who only have vision in 1 eye.

http://www.aopa.org/careerpilot/arti...dvisor&id=6343

"There are many cases involving loss of vision in one eye. Unilateral vision or visual field defects are waiverable for pilots, but typically not for controllers. Over 200 airmen with first class medical certificates and over 2,000 airmen overall hold a statement of demonstrated ability (SODA) for effective vision in only one eye.
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Old May 28th 13, 05:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:35:17 AM UTC-4, Glenn Fisher wrote:

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals who only have vision in 1 eye.


I know that many airline/military pilots also fly gliders. On a clear day, how does airline/military pilots use of "see and avoid" compare to glider pilots?

Are there any "single vision" glider pilots out there?
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Old May 29th 13, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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son_of_flubber wrote, On 5/28/2013 9:15 AM:
On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:35:17 AM UTC-4, Glenn Fisher wrote:

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals
who only have vision in 1 eye.


I know that many airline/military pilots also fly gliders. On a
clear day, how does airline/military pilots use of "see and avoid"
compare to glider pilots?

Are there any "single vision" glider pilots out there?


I know two of them.

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Old May 29th 13, 09:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Galloway[_1_]
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At 01:57 29 May 2013, Eric Greenwell wrote:
son_of_flubber wrote, On 5/28/2013 9:15 AM:
On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:35:17 AM UTC-4, Glenn Fisher wrote:

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals
who only have vision in 1 eye.


I know that many airline/military pilots also fly gliders. On a
clear day, how does airline/military pilots use of "see and avoid"
compare to glider pilots?

Are there any "single vision" glider pilots out there?


I know two of them.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl


A monocular pilot's visual field towards the bad side is wider than you
might
think - try it - and he will have adapted in daily life to paying attention
to the
affected side. Hopefully he will also have adapted his scanning technique.
I
know an effectively monocular glider pilot and and was happy to share the
sky with him for many years until he moved to another part of the UK.

A pilot who is used to binocular vision but flying with a close and out of
focus
lateral blind spot that extends well round towards the central visual would
be
a menace IMHO.

John Galloway

 




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