Google Glass in the cockpit?

Unlike a hat brim the obstruction from the support bar is directly

at pupil level and the closeness to the eye means that even a

narrow obstruction will subtend an angle large enough to cause

a significant lateral blind spot. Most gliders on a collision

course are most likely to be level with oneself. This is a crazy

idea and to allow pilots to use it would be similar to allowing

flying with visual field defects.


I have not played with Google Glass and I understand the mount may restrict vision. However, AH-64 and F-35 pilot fly with helmet mounted HUDs, so there must be some way to mount this technology that doesn't restrict vision.

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals who only have vision in 1 eye.

http://www.aopa.org/careerpilot/arti...dvisor&id=6343

"There are many cases involving loss of vision in one eye. Unilateral vision or visual field defects are waiverable for pilots, but typically not for controllers. Over 200 airmen with first class medical certificates and over 2,000 airmen overall hold a statement of demonstrated ability (SODA) for effective vision in only one eye.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:35:17 AM UTC-4, Glenn Fisher wrote:

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals who only have vision in 1 eye.

I know that many airline/military pilots also fly gliders. On a clear day, how does airline/military pilots use of "see and avoid" compare to glider pilots?

Are there any "single vision" glider pilots out there?

son_of_flubber wrote, On 5/28/2013 9:15 AM:
On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:35:17 AM UTC-4, Glenn Fisher wrote:

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals
who only have vision in 1 eye.

I know that many airline/military pilots also fly gliders. On a
clear day, how does airline/military pilots use of "see and avoid"
compare to glider pilots?

Are there any "single vision" glider pilots out there?

I know two of them.

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email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

At 01:57 29 May 2013, Eric Greenwell wrote:
son_of_flubber wrote, On 5/28/2013 9:15 AM:
On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:35:17 AM UTC-4, Glenn Fisher wrote:

Also, There are airline pilots in the US with 1st class medicals
who only have vision in 1 eye.

I know that many airline/military pilots also fly gliders. On a
clear day, how does airline/military pilots use of "see and avoid"
compare to glider pilots?

Are there any "single vision" glider pilots out there?

I know two of them.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

A monocular pilot's visual field towards the bad side is wider than you
might
think - try it - and he will have adapted in daily life to paying attention
to the
affected side. Hopefully he will also have adapted his scanning technique.
I
know an effectively monocular glider pilot and and was happy to share the
sky with him for many years until he moved to another part of the UK.

A pilot who is used to binocular vision but flying with a close and out of
focus
lateral blind spot that extends well round towards the central visual would
be
a menace IMHO.

John Galloway

Not sold on Google Glass. These however are the bomb... played with them in the field. Can display infomation just like an aircraft HUD that us ex-military used to look through. Used it in a Ground role as a TACP during a demonstration and they work great. Check out the attached video, and you can imagine how they can be used to iterface with FLARM, Navigation, etc as to whatever heads up capability you need. Even watched a movie with them. You can focus on the movie, or actually see through it to know what's going on--that would onstruct vision too much while flying, but that's not what they'd be used for (I hope...). From an email:

"ODG X-5 Biometric Glasses. These are Glasses, not Helmet Mounted Devices, that were designed with the "Every Soldier: A Sensor Concept" in mind for real world ops. However, due to the fact that they have a HD (720P) heads up display built into the glasses, I believe they are well suited for full immersion into Virtual and Augmented Reality/live constructive training environment. Currently our prototypes have the ability to display a virtual 24 inch screen at 18 inches distance in front of the viewer;
-Originally designed to collect voice and facial biometrics data
-They currently have 2x 1.5 Ghz CPU in them.
-The Glasses weigh approx 4 oz.
- the X-5s are bluetooth and Wifi with built-in GPS and AGPS


Our the plan is to reach out to industry partners, to work with them to satisfy customer unique requirements.

This link is a video of my client talking in front of the DARPA director last year. I think you will find it very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrDgFjBSVuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrDgFjBSVuE "

Just passing it on.

Cheers,
Squeak

This whole thread gives me the heebie geebies.

You guys are discussing obstructions to vision as though it were the only pertinent down side here. I think this is secondary. I think a *far* more important issue is the tendency of humans to focus on the attractive nuisance of a display.

T8

On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:15:12 AM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:

I know that many airline/military pilots also fly gliders. On a clear day, how does airline/military pilots use of "see and avoid" compare to glider pilots?

From personal experience, "it depends". Fighter/attack/bomber pilots tend to have a disciplined visual lookout because they are trained that way - the threat you don't see is the one that kills you. And a lot of their flying is in a VFR "see and avoid" environment, without ATC or TCAS to help. And not all have radars; A-10s for example.

Transport/airline pilots fly in a different environment. Always IFR, even when in VMC conditions, ATC/TCAS warnings of traffic, reduced visibility from their cockpits, set flight paths. All would tend to reduce the pressure to emphasize "see and avoid". I've had airliners fly through my thermal on approach, had to move out of the way as it cruised by at my altitude, oblivious of my presence. I've also had fighters maneuver aggressively to avoid me, obviously having seen me in their flight path.

As far as the doctor and his lawyer friend in their glass-cockpit Cirrus with a couple of hotties in the back seat - yeah, right, they are looking out the window...

Flying without at least a PCAS, but better yet a PowerFlarm, is foolish, if you ask me.

Kirk
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My developers have been using google glass for a month or so now. I have tried them for a couple days. Google glass is all about google search services and google application integration. It is nice but has a long way to go. Remember the first Android phones?

The "interface of HUD glasses" would be a great interface for soaring pilots (and power pilots) who are still capable of adapting to new technology (clearly a fraction of the total). HUD is the standard for military pilots and commercial pilots in the most modern aircraft. Pecking at a PDA is, in all honesty, a fairly poor way to go. I personally invision the glasses HUD being an extension of a panel screen system such as LX 9000, SeeYou, XC Soar or even ClearNav. The glasses HUD would compliment the regular display rather than replace it.

It would be fairly easy to write a soaring computer application such as XC soar or even SeeYou into that interface.

And based on the pace of innovation I have seen (little to none in some manufacturers such as Naviteer, tons in XC soar and LX) I am guessing that it will not be long before one of them offers something like Google Glass.

There will be many HUD eyeglass manufacturers if Google Glass is initially successful. And I would say its almost assured that google glasses will be a massive hit for Google.