Google Glass in the cockpit?

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:14:28 PM UTC-6, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:43:11 PM UTC-4, Bill D wrote:



Nah, it's just easier to come up with imaginary reasons why something might not work than to make the effort to really understand the technology and find reasons why it might be a good idea.



I think that is too harsh. I agree that "change sucks" and even though we might revel in the new possibilities, everyone is naturally stressed by the extremely rapid rate of technological and social change.



To paraphrase Douglas Adams, author of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy":



Every useful technology invented before you turn 20 is absolutely essential to life. Every useful technology invented before you turn 25, will be grudgingly incorporated into your daily life. But one naturally feels that every technology invented after you turn 25, COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE DEVIL!

Speak for yourself. At 72 I'm still ****ed I don't have a flying car.

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:28:19 PM UTC-4, Bill D wrote:

Every useful technology invented before you turn 20 is absolutely essential to life. Every useful technology invented before you turn 25, will be grudgingly incorporated into your daily life. But one naturally feels that every technology invented after you turn 25, COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE DEVIL!



Speak for yourself. At 72 I'm still ****ed I don't have a flying car.

Given that the aero-car concept vehicles were being invented, developed and flown when you were a kid, you haven't exactly disproved DA's assertion :-).

T8

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:37:47 PM UTC-6, Evan Ludeman wrote:
On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:28:19 PM UTC-4, Bill D wrote:



Every useful technology invented before you turn 20 is absolutely essential to life. Every useful technology invented before you turn 25, will be grudgingly incorporated into your daily life. But one naturally feels that every technology invented after you turn 25, COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE DEVIL!







Speak for yourself. At 72 I'm still ****ed I don't have a flying car.



Given that the aero-car concept vehicles were being invented, developed and flown when you were a kid, you haven't exactly disproved DA's assertion :-).



T8

Those were "road capable airplanes" not flying cars like Jetsons.

Back to the OP subject. HMD's are a solution, not a problem. Good ones will display only the information the pilot needs and only when they need it while keeping eyes out of the cockpit. An advantage for aging eyes in that information will be seen at infinity focus not 2 feet in front of the pilot like steam gauges. Collision risks hidden behind aircraft structure will also be visible.

son_of_flubber wrote, On 5/29/2013 9:43 AM:
Likewise, a synthetic voice that calmly tells me that my spoilers
popped open during takeoff would be worthwhile to consider.

Your vario may already be able to warn you of spoilers open on takeoff.
My Cambridge 302 warns me, though not with a voice.

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email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
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Guys and Gals,

At the end of the day it really does not matter that much. Having XC soar crash a couple days in a contest recently, I flew the task with a stopwatch, a map and a iPhone 5 running iGlide of the internal GPS. I did fine in the task.

That said, as glider pilots are often in close proximity to numerous close proximity traffic and have trouble reading digital displays due to vision issues or screen brightness issues, having a glasses HUD like display makes sense in several obvious ways. Adopting this new tech certainly won't be necessary, KS still flies an SN10 with no moving map for example. But it certainly has the potential to be a better way to display key data in exactly the same way military & commercial pilots, soldiers, etc are doing so today.

The only difference is that very soon HUD or smart glasses "hardware" cost is going to come way down, performance and application range is going to go way up. Development is going to explode. Common folk will be able to afford them. In 10 years, perhaps 5 (mark my words), the smart phone will be a relic. Watches, glasses and voice activated micro devices (earpieces) will become the way we communicate and access information. The smart phone will be as outdated as the "workstation or desktop" was last decade.

Some visionary glider pilots may not even have (wait for it...) any steam gauges in their gliders at all...it would cost far less to have a digital box output flight data to glasses and have a small backup screen on the panel..

As always, I embrace the new tech and enjoy learning (imagining) what it can offer. I do not fear change or learning new ways to do things. In fact, I love witnessing change and watching the naysayers squirm. I love shaking up the status quo. Trying to find ways to attack new tech before it has even arrived is humorous frankly. As with all of the past "discussions" here on related topics, by the time you learn of it, it's already here. Banning it is impossible, unnecessary and in most cases completely unenforceable.. Yet, I do fear the RC is probably already in discussions about drafting a new ban on HUD glasses. :-).

Here is to Google glass and the other competitors that are today working feverishly to catch the latest wave... And here is to the pilots that embrace it without fear of change.

Sean
F2

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:12:06 AM UTC-4, Sean F (F2) wrote:
Guys and Gals,



At the end of the day it really does not matter that much. Having XC soar crash a couple days in a contest recently, I flew the task with a stopwatch, a map and a iPhone 5 running iGlide of the internal GPS. I did fine in the task.



That said, as glider pilots are often in close proximity to numerous close proximity traffic and have trouble reading digital displays due to vision issues or screen brightness issues, having a glasses HUD like display makes sense in several obvious ways. Adopting this new tech certainly won't be necessary, KS still flies an SN10 with no moving map for example. But it certainly has the potential to be a better way to display key data in exactly the same way military & commercial pilots, soldiers, etc are doing so today.



The only difference is that very soon HUD or smart glasses "hardware" cost is going to come way down, performance and application range is going to go way up. Development is going to explode. Common folk will be able to afford them. In 10 years, perhaps 5 (mark my words), the smart phone will be a relic. Watches, glasses and voice activated micro devices (earpieces) will become the way we communicate and access information. The smart phone will be as outdated as the "workstation or desktop" was last decade.



Some visionary glider pilots may not even have (wait for it...) any steam gauges in their gliders at all...it would cost far less to have a digital box output flight data to glasses and have a small backup screen on the panel.



As always, I embrace the new tech and enjoy learning (imagining) what it can offer. I do not fear change or learning new ways to do things. In fact, I love witnessing change and watching the naysayers squirm. I love shaking up the status quo. Trying to find ways to attack new tech before it has even arrived is humorous frankly. As with all of the past "discussions" here on related topics, by the time you learn of it, it's already here. Banning it is impossible, unnecessary and in most cases completely unenforceable. Yet, I do fear the RC is probably already in discussions about drafting a new ban on HUD glasses. :-).



Here is to Google glass and the other competitors that are today working feverishly to catch the latest wave... And here is to the pilots that embrace it without fear of change.



Sean

F2

You are simply looking for windmills to tilt at.

Presenting yourself as some sort of visionary in a throng of fearful, vengeful luddites is, shall we say, a little clownish.

T8

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:26:10 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
This is funny, but it gives a good idea of the Google Glass point of view.



http://mashable.com/2013/05/25/googl...-photographer/



Will we all want to be wearing these in the cockpit three years from now?



Not shown is the ability to interact through voice commands and receive information via a synthetic voice. That seems to have potential above the sunlight readable display angle.



Anyone working on an XCSoar port to Google Glass?

It looks like HUDs are here for sport aviation.
http://www.patavionics.com/index.php/en/

As for Google Glass, here's an article about learning the fly the Apache helicopter which has a monocle for one of the pilot's eyes. http://blogs.airspacemag.com/daily-p...ardest-to-fly/
Suffering with headaches while trying to integrate information from multiple sources simultaneously doesn't sound like a fun way to fly.

Craig