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Old July 23rd 13, 03:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
JP Stewart
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

That's the traditional Nook "Simple Touch" http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook...ble/1102344735 I can vouch for it as an e-reader but it is pretty slow for something like xc-soar.

JP
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Old July 23rd 13, 04:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

These new devices are interesting, notwithstanding possible slowness.
However, I wonder how you mount them in the cockpit since they're so large.
Will you make a leg strap or mount it to a stalk? Simply laying it on your
lap could become an expensive surprise when you hit a strong vertical shear
and it rises up and through your canopy!

I made paper cutouts of all my instruments and of various sized Android
devices and tried laying them on a spare uncut panel I have. Not even a 7
inch model could be integrated into my panel and I didn't want a Ram mounted
thing that big blocking the view of my panel.

For now, my Streak on a home made mount works great but I'm always on the
lookout for a suitable replacement.


"Jp Stewart" wrote in message
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That's the traditional Nook "Simple Touch"
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook...ble/1102344735
I can vouch for it as an e-reader but it is pretty slow for something like
xc-soar.

JP


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Old July 23rd 13, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Hostage
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

I am flying with a Nook Simple Touch, loaded with TopHat (a derivative of
XCSoar, see: tophat.freeforums.org), connected to a Cambridge 302. The
display is superb in direct sunlight and the update rate is immaterial,
given that I use the instrument for occasional quick reference, not
detailed and continuous study.

I have mounted the Nook on a stalk attached to the cockpit side rail,
giving me full panel access for regular instruments.

Mike

At 15:23 23 July 2013, Dan Marotta wrote:
These new devices are interesting, notwithstanding possible slowness.
However, I wonder how you mount them in the cockpit since they're so

large.

Will you make a leg strap or mount it to a stalk? Simply laying it on

your

lap could become an expensive surprise when you hit a strong vertical

shear

and it rises up and through your canopy!

I made paper cutouts of all my instruments and of various sized Android
devices and tried laying them on a spare uncut panel I have. Not even a 7


inch model could be integrated into my panel and I didn't want a Ram
mounted
thing that big blocking the view of my panel.

For now, my Streak on a home made mount works great but I'm always on the


lookout for a suitable replacement.


"Jp Stewart" wrote in message
...
That's the traditional Nook "Simple Touch"

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook...ble/1102344735

I can vouch for it as an e-reader but it is pretty slow for something

like
xc-soar.

JP




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Old July 23rd 13, 09:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
AGL
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

On Tuesday, 23 July 2013 11:48:07 UTC-4, Mike Hostage wrote:
I am flying with a Nook Simple Touch, loaded with TopHat (a derivative of

XCSoar, see: tophat.freeforums.org),


Yes, it's a Nook. I have one with TopHat too, but use a USB mouse GPS or my back-up generic Garmin with a serial/usb adapter. I take it home and download the igc file by USB. (ok for the OLC) It works very well so far.

I made custom clips for a RAM-HOL-TAB-SMU with a 1" ball system to the cockpit side rail. It covers the spare Winter mechanical vario I never use.

After flying four hours on the regular 7AH batteries with that and an audio vario, voltage dropped from 12.8 12.6 volts. One day I'll measure the current usage, but it's a non-issue.

I see no indication that it's too slow to do the job. On-line objections about speed or ghosting have been theoretical. Try one! It's cheap enough. :-)
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Old July 23rd 13, 11:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Kimmo Hytoenen
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

This is video of our installation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a28I9u0fYO8

Still some issues with IOIO connection, but I have been flying with
it. It's B&W only, some ghost images, maybe slow... but readability
in glider cockpit is so much better than anything else, that I am
sure that this is the future of PNA devices.

Since viewing angle is practically unlimited, kneeboard use should
be possible.

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Old July 24th 13, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

I present the following not as criticism, but as an alternative for those
who don't want to spend a lot of money.

I looked at RAM mounts for my Streak installation and just couldn't justify
the high price. There's a lot of talk about adjustability but, seriously, I
think that, once you have it adjusted to your preference, you leave it
there. My solution was simple and, most importantly, cheap!

I went to WalMart and bought a universal car cell phone mount. It came with
suction cup and AC vent attachments. Using a hacksaw, I removed the suction
cup base and then, with two adel clamps
(http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...d=0CDsQ9QEwAg),
a couple of nuts and screws, attached it to the side of my panel above my
knee. After a single adjustment, it's there permanently.


"AGL" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 23 July 2013 11:48:07 UTC-4, Mike Hostage wrote:
I am flying with a Nook Simple Touch, loaded with TopHat (a derivative of

XCSoar, see: tophat.freeforums.org),


Yes, it's a Nook. I have one with TopHat too, but use a USB mouse GPS or
my back-up generic Garmin with a serial/usb adapter. I take it home and
download the igc file by USB. (ok for the OLC) It works very well so far.

I made custom clips for a RAM-HOL-TAB-SMU with a 1" ball system to the
cockpit side rail. It covers the spare Winter mechanical vario I never
use.

After flying four hours on the regular 7AH batteries with that and an
audio vario, voltage dropped from 12.8 12.6 volts. One day I'll measure
the current usage, but it's a non-issue.

I see no indication that it's too slow to do the job. On-line objections
about speed or ghosting have been theoretical. Try one! It's cheap
enough. :-)


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Old July 29th 13, 07:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Wallace Berry[_2_]
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

In article ,
Mike Hostage wrote:

I am flying with a Nook Simple Touch, loaded with TopHat (a derivative of
XCSoar, see: tophat.freeforums.org), connected to a Cambridge 302. The
display is superb in direct sunlight and the update rate is immaterial,
given that I use the instrument for occasional quick reference, not
detailed and continuous study.



I flew with the Nook running Top Hat for the first time this weekend. It
updates at least as fast as my old PDA. Ghosting was not an issue at all
although I did not enable terrain. I did have roads and rivers turned
on. The Nook is connected to a GPS puck and ship power by an
off-the-shelf OTG ""y" cable. It was stable and held GPS lock for a 2.5
hour flight. Previously, I had tested the setup in the car for almost 3
hours and it worked perfectly there as well.

What a joy to fly with a big display that is actually visible in
sunlight!

Top Hat is thankfully pared down a bit from XCSoar. XCSoar and LK8000
both have too many features IMHO. So far Top Hat does everything that I
want it to do and is simple to use.

One feature that I did not try out: The thermalling assistant. I already
have a great thermalling assistant. It's called a 301 Libelle. She
shakes and wags to tell me where the lift is and I can even keep my eyes
out of the cockpit.
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Old July 29th 13, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Soartech
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The Nook is connected to a GPS puck and ship power by an
off-the-shelf OTG ""y" cable.


JB,
Where did you find this cable? I have not seen one.
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Old July 29th 13, 10:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Wallace Berry[_2_]
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Default e Reader options for xc soar?

In article ,
Soartech wrote:

The Nook is connected to a GPS puck and ship power by an
off-the-shelf OTG ""y" cable.


JB,
Where did you find this cable? I have not seen one.




Got it from a vendor listing on Amazon. It was less than $4 with
shipping. Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CXAC1ZW/...pe_309540_2672
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