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When are thermals not circular and do thermal helpers assume thatthey are?



 
 
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Old August 20th 13, 09:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default When are thermals not circular and do thermal helpers assumethat they are?

jfitch wrote, On 8/11/2013 9:59 PM:
It makes a difference if you are trying to relate your thermaling
track to a track projected to the ground. Some thermal assistants
(like SYM) draw a track on the ground color coded by climb rate. If
you are drifting with the wind, this track quickly drifts upwind
relative to you and the airmass (which are drifting downwind).


The Thermal Assistant in my version of SYM does not draw a track on the
ground (of course, the map shows the ground track); instead, it opens
it's own window with no map info on it, and uses about 20 or so small
circles ("bubbles") arranged uniformly in a large circle to display the
thermal. Each bubble is sized and colored to depict the lift at that
point: bigger bubble, bigger lift; red is stronger, blue is weaker (the
actual colors can be selected)

In essence, your circles do overlay each other, no matter how much the
glider drifts with the wind. I never had trouble with wind drift when
using the Assistant. ClearNav, what I am now using, does use a ground
track, and it's hard for me to make sense of the the thermal is doing
from it's depiction. I'm nagging them about this, and I hope it will be
improved soon.

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Old August 20th 13, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jfitch
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Default When are thermals not circular and do thermal helpers assume thatthey are?

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:55:53 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
jfitch wrote, On 8/11/2013 9:59 PM:

It makes a difference if you are trying to relate your thermaling


track to a track projected to the ground. Some thermal assistants


(like SYM) draw a track on the ground color coded by climb rate. If


you are drifting with the wind, this track quickly drifts upwind


relative to you and the airmass (which are drifting downwind).




The Thermal Assistant in my version of SYM does not draw a track on the

ground (of course, the map shows the ground track); instead, it opens

it's own window with no map info on it, and uses about 20 or so small

circles ("bubbles") arranged uniformly in a large circle to display the

thermal. Each bubble is sized and colored to depict the lift at that

point: bigger bubble, bigger lift; red is stronger, blue is weaker (the

actual colors can be selected)



In essence, your circles do overlay each other, no matter how much the

glider drifts with the wind. I never had trouble with wind drift when

using the Assistant. ClearNav, what I am now using, does use a ground

track, and it's hard for me to make sense of the the thermal is doing

from it's depiction. I'm nagging them about this, and I hope it will be

improved soon.



--

Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to

email me)

- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl


The latest version of SYM draws a color coded ground track, as well as the bubbles. Still has quite a ways to go to catch up with what Winpilot had in 2005....
 




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