Help needed at Mifflin.

On Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:01:33 AM UTC-6, KS wrote:
Two companies are planning the installation of wind turbines on top of Jacks Mt near the Mifflin County Airport where contests have been held for 23 years. Ridge running on Jacks is vital to the success of soaring at Mifflin and these devices would eliminate an essential part of the soaring activity. See http://mifflin.ridgesewing.com/Jacks.htm for a further link to information which will show a picture of what the wind farm would look like and a request for letters/e-mails to help thwart this project. Thanks for your help. Karl Striedieck PS Send this on to those who might not follow ras but could help.

I'm all for saving a great soaring site. As for bird mortality, please. Picture windows and automobiles cause orders of magnitude more mortality that wind farms. Perhaps you'd care to give those up too?

wrote, On 10/7/2013 10:52 AM:
On Sunday, October 6, 2013 9:01:33 AM UTC-6, KS wrote:
Two companies are planning the installation of wind turbines on top
of Jacks Mt near the Mifflin County Airport where contests have
been held for 23 years. Ridge running on Jacks is vital to the
success of soaring at Mifflin and these devices would eliminate an
essential part of the soaring activity. See
http://mifflin.ridgesewing.com/Jacks.htm for a further link to
information which will show a picture of what the wind farm would
look like and a request for letters/e-mails to help thwart this
project. Thanks for your help. Karl Striedieck PS Send this on to
those who might not follow ras but could help.

I'm all for saving a great soaring site. As for bird mortality,
please. Picture windows and automobiles cause orders of magnitude
more mortality that wind farms. Perhaps you'd care to give those up
too?

There may be a better argument than that. My understanding is the bird
species killed by ridge sited wind turbines are quite different from
those killed by windows and cars - generally, species that are more
desirable and have smaller populations, so the effect of the kills is
more severe.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

Eric, I shared your post with my pet canary, and he was quite offended at the implication that small non predator avian species would be considered inferior. I must admit he has a point. I personally think crows are the most intelligent North American bird. You wont see them flying into a whirling blade. I have absolutely no data to support my position in this matter..
DLB

wrote, On 10/9/2013 5:56 PM:
Eric, I shared your post with my pet canary, and he was quite
offended at the implication that small non predator avian species
would be considered inferior. I must admit he has a point. I
personally think crows are the most intelligent North American bird.
You wont see them flying into a whirling blade. I have absolutely
no data to support my position in this matter. DLB

Canarys are too smart to fly into windows and cars, since they are
working hard, deep in the coal mines. I was thinking more of starlings.
which even our Audubon fanatic neighbor detested.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/23/st...wind-turbines/

Convenient how the liberally controlled federal governments "errors" always seem to go in favor of what they are pushing (global warming, climate change, etc) until their research gets called out as bull****. Then it gets corrected, reluctantly. Here is another great example.

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-...ats-every-year

http://trib.com/business/energy/fed-...b3ea3670b.html

....and my personal favorite...WIND ENERGY GETS AWAY WITH MURDER! http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamescon...y-with-murder/

And the same for global cooling (sorry, I meant warming...), wait a minute............ 15 years of cooling? How is that even possible? WTH?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...cientists.html

Sean F (F2) wrote, On 10/10/2013 9:28 AM:
And the same for global cooling (sorry, I meant warming...), wait a
minute............ 15 years of cooling? How is that even possible?
WTH?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...climatechange/...

Please, PLEASE DON'T START THESE POLITICALLY CHARGED ARGUMENTS
ON RAS!

There are literally thousands of internet sites to discuss global
warming and climate change, places where everyone there WANTS to discuss
it, unlike here at RAS, where discussing soaring is what everyone wants.

So, please, anyone that wants to respond to Sean's post
(for/against/whatever), please do it privately and not on RAS.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:28:36 -0700, Sean F (F2) wrote:

And the same for global cooling (sorry, I meant warming...), wait a
minute............ 15 years of cooling? How is that even possible?
WTH?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...ange/10294082/
Global-warming-No-actually-were-cooling-claim-scientists.html

Hey, there is a good reason why the Telegraph is known as the Torygraph
in these parts. To put that in perspective: our Tories have a lot in
common with your Tea Party.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
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Sean F (F2) wrote, On 10/10/2013 9:25 AM:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/23/st...underestimated....
Convenient how the liberally controlled federal governments "errors"
always seem to go in favor of what they are pushing (global warming,
climate change, etc) until their research gets called out as
bull****. Then it gets corrected, reluctantly. Here is another
great example.

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-...2013/07/24/us-...
http://trib.com/business/energy/fed-...duce-bird-kill...

...and my personal favorite...WIND ENERGY GETS AWAY WITH MURDER!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamescon.../wind-energy-g...

I really hope we will all stay focused on Karl's concern. Dividing us up
into various political groups and arguing about which energy source is
best will not help soaring at Mifflin.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

On 10/10/2013 4:00 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
arguing about which energy source is best will not help soaring at Mifflin


As glider pilots, I think we can all agree that the best energy source
is the SUN

Cheers,
Luke Szczepaniak